So on the forums I see a lot of discussions about which classes are good, better, best, worst. List goes on, and at times I’ve gone with popular sentiment and tried to roll up a new guy to try out a class to see if it’s as great as everyone claims.
While some are certainly easier than others, does it REALLY matter for people who are not doing raids/Mythic+? Me personally I’m a PVE/dungeon player, and while I’ve toyed with the idea of doing mythics or heroic dungeons, I’m usually just happy playing normal dungeons and questing.
Do you all feel that class matters much for basic gameplay? Or does class greatly impact outcomes in doing raids/mythics? As a guy who doesn’t play raids, I’m sort of curious. I wouldn’t mind getting into mythics/raids eventually, but I also don’t wanna get passed over frequently cause I’m a class that the general populace isn’t willing to touch with a 10 foot poll.
I’ve had friends that have said even though they play their specs great in raid settings, they’ve been frequently passed over because they are not the “best” class for healing, or dps, etc.
I’m a huge supporter of play what you like and what is fun for you, no matter the situation. You may get passed over by elitists who want a specific comp for something, but is that worth playing something you’re not enjoying?
Class/Spec makes a decent amount of difference once you go into content where your performance can dictate if you win or not (ie: Mythic+ with the affixes and timer, Raids with hard/soft enrage timers, adds to manage, phases to push etc). At least in terms of capable players being able to get more out of their performance. Even in situations where there are no direct output requirements, better numbers make the content easier for everyone.
That said, at the level like 98% of people play at, even if you only look at players participating in mythic+ and raiding above LFR, playing the class/spec they enjoy the most, regardless of it’s position in comparison to other classes/specs, will get the job done with plenty of room to spare. Hell, most people will outright perform better on the class they enjoy vs the class they don’t care about and only rolled because it was FotM.
It’s only really Mythic Raiding where performance requirements are so tight that this sort of thing might matter a bit, as well as very high level Mythic+ (like 15 or 20+, rewards effectively stop at 10, and any spec can do those easily).
And I don’t mean “Mythic Raiding” as in the groups that push the first ~3 bosses at the end of a tier, I mean Mythic Raiding in that the group’s goal is to full clear the raid on Mythic, and probably care about their ranking compared to other guilds on wowprogress and such.
Much like aktson said, unless you are literally in method or directly competing with them, your class/race doesn’t matter as long as you have fun. Hell, the first US guild to down the new raid on mythic uses a kitty Druid, and they are usually laughed out of groups.
Normal dungeons and questing can be done with any class with approximately equal effectiveness (putting aside shorter queues and how easy hunters and demon hunters have it for wqs).
That said, yes, classes have a large impact on basic gameplay. So, you should play what you like.
Class has a major power impact when trying to push the limits of how far you can go on the difficulty spectrum, so YMMV if you find normal dungeons and WQs difficult.
For Heroic and anything up to +15 in M+, all classes can perform well.
Of course there’s going to be differences, but as you move into more difficult content those few extra %s of damage, and extra utility becomes much more valuable.
What Akston said here. If you’re pushing ranks for mythic raiding or going for +20s and above… then your class and spec start to really matter. Anything below that? It’s down to how well you play rather than what you’re playing.
Now is it wise to completely ignore class/spec when organizing with a group of friends? No probably not. A party of all druids, while technically possible, will be at a disadvantage. But imo… play what you enjoy.
Edit: Heck we use a BM monk, Resto druid, feral druid, balance druid, and outlaw rogue for our M+ team. Only the resto druid and outlaw rogue are part of the current meta for pushing high M+. We’ve done 18’s in time and 19’s out of time, and tbh… it’s our own mistakes that are holding us back atm. Not our classes. Every failed 19 has been due to unforced errors.
Honestly OP, not it does not matter. Play what you want to play, whether it’s a shadow priest because you think shadowform looks amazing, or fury warrior because you think dual wielding 2handers looks amazing. It honestly will only matter to you if you try to do high level mythic + keys or high end raids using group finder. If you are in a friendly guild that enjoys doing activities together, you can ultimately end up doing whatever you want with them. And also, let’s say you are not in a guild and you are relying on group finder to get your content done in the future. Learn your spec to the best of your ability, and try to impress the group leaders you run with. If you are a solid player and you pull good numbers on a non-meta spec, and you use your spec’s utility, there is a good chance to be invited back to something.
Always play what you enjoy, otherwise what’s the point? The difference between meta and non-meta is something like 5, maybe 10%. If you’re forcing yourself to play something you don’t find fun, in a videogame, you’re just gonna be perpetually wasting your time.
Eventually your class will somehow, arbitrarily become ‘meta’ anyway.
In long run,you would always play the class /spec that you would enjoy no matter what anyone else would say.
With the way information is speeding along these day a person could find out which class /spec are most popular very fast that can be used in raids /mythic+ but that doesn’t mean the most popular is the only one available to use.I would blame media for some of the problems with this, as well as ,those leads the for their time restrictions would fellow these suggestion knowing full well these are not completely true.
Devils in the details. Were they berating the player for playing a “dog crap class” and tell him he’s a noob and a moron for even trying with that class? Sure… definitely elitist. Did they act like adults and state their expectations to try to push into +22’s and above, hence they felt that the feral druid just maybe wasn’t the best choice for their group? No… not elitists. More like realists.
Odds are they didnt say a word and just declined them or as that poster said “passed over them”
There are times when you need top balance out a group a certain way. And doing so doesnt make the group leader an “elitist”, it makes them competent. People are just overly sensitive to being passed over
It really doesn’t matter as much as people say. There’s a lot of posturing, people like to sound knowledgeable about the game so they parrot what they read and hear online about what is considered good/bad. Even when the statements have a smidge of truth in them, for 90% of players in 90% of the game’s situations it really doesn’t matter.
Now we’re into assumptions. Let’s not assume what happened to others. To me, if they acted like they did in my first scenario, then I’d consider them elitists. If they acted like they did in the second scenario, then I’d consider them normal people. From my experience, the latter is by far the more prevalent interaction as well.