Do away with house leveling

It seriously makes me not want to even bother with this system at all sometimes when the rest of it so well put together for the most part. Why are you arbitrarily restricting me until I fill this bar up 9x over?

I shouldn’t have to run around collecting housing items I have no interest in using or doing these stupid mini games like delivering mail just to be able to use 100% of my house. It’s insane that this made it through any form of QA testing.

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I could be wrong, but I would assume they’ll add more ways to level up our homes. As the levels get higher and we (personally) get more decor, there won’t be enough to add to our house levels.

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I think you’re just impatient. You see it in early access before Midnight official launch on 2-Mar and you you want a max-rank house now (in fact you want to do away with ranks altogether).

It’s an MMO so there’s going to be effort to achieve something of value. Housing is Evergreen and meant to be a lasting feature over many, many expansions to come; not a one-and-done before Midnight even gets underway.

Of course they were going to put a grindy leveling system in, because they want it to keep housing engagement up for “many, many expansions to come.” You shouldn’t have to run around collecting stuff you don’t even want, yet you are because you want a max-level house more than you dislike running around collecting useless decor taking up your limited 5K inventory maximum (maybe you destroy stuff after the XP is verified as earned?).

If you really had no interest in useless busy tasks, you simply wouldn’t do them and would just work on your house as a side-hobby in down-time between seasons, not as the main attraction. If it is the main attraction for you, then the time-gating “for many, many expansions to come,” could well drive you away from this game as I just can’t see that changing based on their design philosophy and business model (keep them subbed however you can!).

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I like it how it is. It made me rethink that Medium sized house as I’ve now seen them. I am going to keep my little cottage-sized house so that I can go nuts on the outside decorations. I’m not to eight yet but that is just fine with me.

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Yeah, leveling things in an RPG. Such a quality control issue. :dracthyr_nod:

Get a grip.

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Being a gnome, I wouldn’t tell people that :stuck_out_tongue:


It doesn’t make sense for us to have everything right now, otherwise you’d be done with your house before the expansion even drops.

I’m kind of looking at my house and there isn’t much more I want/need to do, but I know as they release more levels, decor, housing options, tools, etc, that is going to change. There are some things I want to do outside, but until they fix the lighting and optimize things to give us bigger budgets, those plans are on hold. I kind of like knowing I’ll have something to do in the future.

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For people who play regularly and do the endeavors the housing levels wont matter as we’ll be capped quickly.

That being said, there will come a point where the gap between established players and new/returning players with no housing levels will be unfairly wide unless they are on top of that. Since endeavor exp is monthly and the only other source is 10 exp incriminates from new decor you will eventually hit a time gating wall. That’s going to suck for people who are coming in at a low level but really want some perk at a higher one.

If they add any more level perks then hopefully blizzard keeps it squished or gives people catch up mechanics. But until that point I think the overall concept is fine, and after a few months you’ll be capped anyways.

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That time gate wall is coming for all of us in Midnight, if you want to have more than one house leveled up. Most folks in my circles are having to pick one or the other to focus on because the endeavors are fairly grindy and they have limited playtime and want to do other stuff.

I think Blizzard has a fundamental misunderstanding of how people want to largely engage with housing. They don’t want to grind (uncreative engagement) so they can build (creative engagement). Stifling creative engagement with an uncreative toll is a good way to kill the creative interest/drive in that engagement.

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I complained heavily about the xp cap when Endeavors first came out.

I do think we need more ways to level with a monthly cap in place so we can’t outpace the content.

But in no way do Ii think they need to completely eliminate House levels.

Gives me something to work towards. That would be like adding a new expansion but not have any character leveling at all.

Would completely ruin the feature in my opinion. This is just another “I want my reward without have to work for it” posts.

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It feels like you just want to put the work in. Most people that I know are enjoying the process aside from a couple of folks that didn’t keep up on older content. I will agree it sucks for them but honestly it isn’t bad.

This is the real sticking point for me. I want to engage with the housing system, but the endeavors are … not that much fun, honestly. (My neighborhoods got Consortium and dracthyr, respectively). They’re grindy (kill 100 Sunfury blood elves? What in the mass murder is this?) and the mobs are scaled up which makes them slow. I didn’t enjoy Forbidden Reach when it was current; I don’t enjoy it more now.

At least with the dracthyr one there are the 4-5 little weekly quests in the neighborhood that give character xp as well as house xp, so I can put a little alt on those. Big xp it’s not but that’s more fun than trying to find a group for War Creche.

At the same time, I want to do other things. There’s TWW content I want to finish off. When Midnight drops I’ll want to be doing that.

I don’t know how to fix endeavors. I just know that I have limited playtime and when I log in, I want to do something fun. I haven’t capped out my house xp for either endeavor this month because I look at the task and think “or, I could do dragon races in Khaz Algar.”

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I mean, other than the one person who wants to make it look like their house is being sucked into a portal, most people seem to want their houses level so all the decor doesn’t slide to one end. I could be wrong, of course. :wink:

Is this a certain someone I know?

I expect to see people complain about being at max housing level in April and asking why there is nothing new with housing.

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Or, it will turn out to be sufficiently a PITA for enough of the player base that they’ll abandon it. Remember when they tried having us level our guilds?

I have, at this point, mostly given up on trying to level the houses. Endeavors aren’t fun, they still haven’t even acknowledged much less addressed the XP loss bug, and with the decor storage limit I’m being very choosy about what I collect. If that means I don’t unlock additional budget, oh well. But I’m pretty sure this is not how they want players to feel about housing.

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Wdym a lot of players, myself included, are already level 8. Next month I’ll be level 9.

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… I lost 2000 xp in each house at the prepatch. That was all from decor and can’t be recovered unless Blizzard does something, which they haven’t. They haven’t even publicly acknowledged the bug. It’s been a month, so I’ve given up hoping that xp will be restored.

Endeavors aren’t fun and I don’t want to do them. The bar doesn’t “fill naturally.” I have to go grind old content I didn’t much enjoy the first time. There are other things that are actually fun to do, so I’m doing them instead of grinding out house levels.

So no, I’m not level 9 yet and won’t be for some time, if ever. Oh well.

I still don’t believe this is how Blizzard wants players to feel about housing.

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I kind of like running around collecting and crafting new decor for the bonus xp. Endeavors are also giving so much xp that I’m starting to wonder how far I will be immediately upon 12.1’s release. Thanks to the early access endeavor, I’m going to hit level 9 from maxing out March’s endeavor and I assume each subsequent month leading up to 12.1 will just be banked xp.

I’m starting to wonder if it will be possible to immediately reach the next housing level cap the moment 12.1 goes live or if they’ll add an extra requirement before you can progress further. The xp required to level increases each step, but I’m not sure how big of a jump Blizzard would want to implement.

This sounds like a nightmare. I’ve heard this happened to a few people; I’m hoping Blizzard will implement some sort of audit to fix the issue for those affected. Seems like such an obvious fix, it’s just counting decor collected and decor xp received.

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It absolutely took all the wind out of my sails. I should have been ready to upgrade to level 6 when the prepatch dropped. Instead I got rolled back to halfway through 5.

I don’t know what percentage of players were affected. There’ve been plenty of reports here and in the bug forums.

And then my neighborhoods got arguably the two least fun, grindiest possible endeavors. I’ve heard grummles and Mechagon are better but I have no way to know.

There is lots of stuff I like about housing. Gathering mats and crafting decor. Building and decorating. But leveling the houses and doing endeavors ain’t it.

I am kind of past caring if they change the leveling system or not. I have plenty of LEGOs for now. But again – still – is this really how they want me to feel?

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I don’t know if you know them, but you replied to their thread about tilting houses.