It really feels like anytime any class overperforms the blizzard response is to nerf dks. It sucks, being the single worst meele that cannot even be played into casters anymore because blizzard gutted that too.
“Oh palas are turbo broken, lets nerf dks by 3% that will solve it.”
20 Likes
We actually have the worst community PvP wise so it’s not shocking that this happened for the 7th expac in a row. Everytime dk is even remotely good in PvP we have several high profile or loud players that engage in a Maoist struggle session and we eat massive nerfs, as if the hyperbole of the average terrible arena player isnt enough.
What’s amazing to me is that these same idiots virtue signal for balance, get balanced to the bottom then whine about it. Not you op, same group of idiots from paragraph 1.
7 Likes
Why is this, is it really just people whining that can’t step back and be objective? I was posting about something similar to this in another topic and to date I just don’t get it
Like warriors “usually” are strong and no hate for them. It’s just accepted that they will always be one of the best melee with the large amount of tools they have.
Like right now there are people that think ret was fine but would still nerf other classes. their opinions get traction even when it’s a situation like ret balance after rework.
What does dk have to do to be left alone lol
I’m confident that we are so bad right now because of non stop cry from casters.
Its literally what we do, we’re the anti-caster class, yet somehow we recieve a crap ton of nerfs while palas, arms, hunters, and locks are able to dominate while never getting touched.
Its rough.
6 Likes
Winner, it was what you pointed out combined with the randomness of shuffle. 3 s is about comp, some classes are bad outside their respective comps. Ergo you put random classes together and some will perform far better because they aren’t reliant on setup. I’m guessing this is part of the reason that frost isn’t as well repped even though it isn’t terrible after the rework. It’s still setup dependant and if you miss you’re running for the next minute.
Mostly because warrior and demo can stand up to ret fairly easily after the first round of nerfs, to answer your question. The idea that warriors are just king melee is an issue of the arena forums, anytime anything gets close people scream for nerf. Same with mage or lock and casters.
How is that?
So just because of the name of the class no matter what they are always guaranteed to be better no questions? that’s a bit much and at least from what I see with peoples attitudes they really do believe that
I don’t get it I would always want skill to be the thing that causes me to beat someone not because my classes design better than anything else or tuned better
I agree that’s why I was giving the arena forums a blast about bias all week.
I don’t agree with their mentality that only a few classes should rule and that got blatant exposed when dk, dh, rogue, enhance and monk were all better than warrior. Look what happened to spriest because it was stronger than mage and lock as well.
Its because we are anti-caster (only reason) and all the high-rated streamers play caster and are very vocal for DK nerfs whenever they are decent (Venruki). If DK was anti-melee no one would care.
5 Likes
Even when those classes were “better” than warrior I’d still rather fight them than face a warrior with my spriest.
1 Like
Ok so I always just thought mages = best because ghostcrawler was supposed to play one and they seem to have it all back in the day but I always had fun fighting them even if t was a loss.
Warriors were tons of fun to fight against when they had second wind and were unkillableish to alot of classes except unholy with necrotic strike.
I remember not being paper to melee and last stuff we had was siphon and conversion but after that idk
Well I guess I understand peoples mentality now of “it’s my turn to be op now” ie rets if there is no matter what always a class that sits on top and even worse if it’s always the same class just because of a name. Well and I guess the crusades to put warriors/mages back on top make sense now
He claimed to play spriest, but when he left the company he torched the development team in an interview stating that they essentially made the work envirement un bearable if mages weren’t catered to specifically, warriors were also mentioned because there is a former High rated arena/tourny player who’s a game dev who played warrior to exclusion.
Brian Holinka was known to like frost DK, which led to Frost being best in WOD and Legion for pvp and a lot of pve content.
Could also shiv it off on my rogue 
That being said MOP second wind was probably the most toxic thing I’ve ever seen in the game from any class because only Rogue/DK could really deal with it reliably relative to the ladder, not AWC.
Same with Frenzied Regen currently.
Here, they could do something like this with our tree. I think this would solve A LOT of our problems.
https: //imgur. com/a/mY6wSNc