DK really needs a ret-level rework

i could careless if anyone likes my ideas. u spend ur days hoping to get notice by a mod orgm and itll never happen boy

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i mean, that rarely happens in the forums anyways. for good reason too, no dev is gonna look at this convo and go “wow these trogs have good points”

Speak for yourself, some of my ideas have been implemented pretty much word per word.

Am i suggesting that i’m responsible for them, not really, am i saying that they likely saw one of my posts on one of my characters and thought it was a good idea? Possibly.

Youre complaining when rets are literal gods now lol

The complaint is not about performance, but i bet that little detail slipped your mind.

I wonder why…

Another potentially useful thread that has devolved into

  • A certain k-someone wasting forum space and everyones time
  • What spec the LK most aligns with; the **** does this matter? It’s not going to fix the specs
  • Whether 2h or DW was the original intention for frost; also not going to do/solve anything

Rather than spending time arguing about whose opinion is less irrelevant, post something constructive.

It’s exhausting seeing the effort the same 5-6 people put in, to say nothing.

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holy moly the ego on this one

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the fact theres two threads up right now where the same people are arguing the same thing about 2hand or duel wielding frost dk

Oh yeah… I go on the forums to get noticed by people I say dont read the forums because they have said they dont read the forums often. If you want to get noticed by a mod or GM just put in a ticket or harass them on twitter.

In your opinion.

Because people bring it up. They want the game to fit their head-cannon and want to RP as Arthas because Icecrown is blue.

DW was intended so everyone saying that it should be removed completely is like saying runes should be removed completely.

Saying to make 2h transmog and to work on the spec overall is constructive. Pointing out the issues with the spec baseline like Obliterate taking up too much of the budget is constructive. Saying there are too many KM procs to where Obliterate is critting 90%+ of the time is constructive feedback. Saying that KM making Obliterate 100% frost damage is a bad idea is constructive. Cleaving Strikes needing to go is constructive feedback.

Because you and others dont like me talking doesnt mean its not constructive or on point.

You do know 2h vs DW is a part of Frost right and you cant ignore it when talking about reworks or redesigns. Maybe they shouldnt have added 2h back as an option and just made it a transmog option and it wouldnt have to be brought up when talking about the balance or design of the spec.

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delete wounds

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I don’t really have a horse in this race seeing as frost DK is just an alt for me.

I personally love the oblit build and hate breath. I enjoy my Obliteration rotation especially in cooldowns. I dislike having [to talent a] minion summon to get my obliteration to cleave as I don’t like pets thats why I don’t ever play the unholy side of DK. I hope D&D gets removed and rather than Having Oblit cleave to two targets I’d rather have howling frost do Super good damage to secondary targets to make up for it.

I dislike having to take soulreaper as I feel it makes my rotation not as fun [especially during pillar of frost]. I hate having my rime procs not generate runic power through rage of the frozen champion as the rotation for that feels way better than Frigid executioner. But if you are doing oblit you cannot pass up 15% extra damage. RotFC Rime procs should really just by default Give 10 runic power. I dislike that frostwyrm’s fury is a 3 min CD and you can talent into a 1.5 min cd. It really should be a 2 min CD where you can make it a 1 min cd with the capstone, [also I’m not sure if icecap does this, but I’m pretty sure if you play perfectly you get like 20 seconds of CDR i think ice cap should reduce it to 30 seconds when played perfectly.] [I would also love it if rather than empowered rune weapon be a charge system it was just a buff applied to your main cooldown.]

those are my fried takes as a casual alt FDK enjoyer

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I agree it needs a complete redesign and I think the ret level rework wasn’t even far enough. I’d like to see them truly go back to the drawing board and do a legion style revamp

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