Disc priest changes when?

Classes Priest
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Not in this post!

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But did you?

No mention of PvP here. This is where it would have been useful to understand why you thought only Disc needed it.

Once asked why and you explained, that’s when you mentioned PvP and we appropriately responded with it being also needed for PvE.

My response is inclusive of Disc needing it regardless of PvP reasons, yours is exclusive based on a niche game mode. It really doesn’t matter if Shadow or Holy need it for PvP if all Priests need it for PvE.

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I dont care about dragon slaying any more than you care about pvp. Stay in your lane

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Stay in my lane? What a juvenile response.

You can tunnel vision all you want on PvP, but mobility is needed elsewhere in the game. No one is saying Disc doesn’t also need a displacement ability like Door of Shadows, just that it’s needed for reasons outside of PvP.

It being needed is valid regardless of what mode of gameplay we’re talking about. Trying to say it’s not needed based off of your chosen limited experience is narrow minded.

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How dare i speak from my own experience hey? What

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You can talk from your own experience, but when someone else talks from their experience, don’t count your ignorance as equally valid.

No one discounted your opinion that Disc needs it, yet you discounted others’ opinions that the other specs also need it because of your ignorance of the need in PvE.

If someone tells you “hey, I also need this,” it’s typically not your place to go “no you don’t, only I do.” It’s not a Turbo Man action figure, we can both have Door of Shadows.

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Dont get so offended over my opinion maybe

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Who’s offended? Why is it when someone feels they’ve lost control of a discussion they jump to “don’t be so offended?” lol As if that gives them any semblance of empowerment.

On topic though, I really hope Oracle gets looked at. Thematically it sounds nice for Disc, I hate that it’s in such a terrible state. I really feel bad for the Holy mains having Oracle and Archon to choose from. They’re two super bland “hero” specs. I know they’ll be worked on over the years, it just takes Blizz way to long to do anything and when they do, 99% of the time it’s just band-aid fixes. I’ve pretty much lost all faith in Blizz to do anything meaningful from community feedback.

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Ironic, because this thread was created primarily to discuss disc in PvE. So perhaps take your own advice, go create a thread specifically to gatekeep disc in PvP.

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I really want Oracle to work out, as a lot of the talents are quite juicy for my playstyle. The issue is how Disc is tuned, with Voidweaver, Scov, and Schism stacking over +60% atonement healing into its windows, it’s impossible to balance the spec for anything else.

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They just won’t do priest changes during beta or ever they always do priest a month or 2 into the xpack. Reason why it’s not even worth paying a sub the first month of a new xpack.

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Disc is coming in the roughest out of the 3 priest specs. The main culprit is you’re going to have periods of +40-60% more atonement healing for 11s and then nothing for 12s.

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I don’t use the mind bender build. I typically run the shield build and only use atonement for when I need to aoe heal.
I will using void summoner for raids for extra mana regain in down phases. Other than that i use penance for healing and try to save as much mana as I can

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I am intrigued by your setup for using penance for healing only. Am I right?

Void Weaver just seems to be great for passive HPS increase. While doing Damage.

I just tried Mindbender + Wrath and Woe build.
Did around 900k healing on a triple trash pull which felt great. Very situational tho lol.

Love it when i popped 2M shield on tank before the pull lol

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I wouldn’t say that, I’m a dynamic player. Usually my first move is doting, then atonement. If team takes massive aoe damage PW:R , mindblast if no dark side, and penance a mob with PtW. After penance I always shield an ally with pw: shield and a prayer of mending (this is for an extra 20-40k worth of shielding through Pom) if a target has low hp and I have nothing to use I will pain suppression with shield and charge a penance or use a flash heal proc (I always save these). Rapture is a must for when the tank is taking heavy damage or the team is taking heavy damage and you can’t keep up. And that’s basically it.

My trinkets are also supportive, i have ward of faceless ire for an extra oh crap shield. And i use a 528 kyrakk’s burning embers when does insane hps it prods like 8-10 times a minute for 140-300k