Disc is FINALLY GETTING A BUFF...but

Frost DK is still in a pathetic state and is the dps equivalent of us before this next update.

Blizzard please help.

Sincerely,

Someone who historically plays unloved classes.

Thank you.

(Talking PVE not PVP)

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“laughs in feral”

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I absolutely love your mog!

Just saying, and welcome to the forums dear!

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Thank you :smiley:

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Aren’t frost DKs fairly good right now?

Why do you think they need buffs?

Considered F tier in M+ and has the lowest completion rate of any DPS spec, perhaps any spec period but I’m not 100% on that second part.

Why comment on something you clearly know nothing about?

Tier lists are memes.

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Guess the completion rate is also just a meme?

Oh wait you skipped over that because it makes your “meme” response fall apart.

P.S. Also really rich coming from the FOTM ranged dps lol.

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Nah, I skipped over it because completion rates aren’t tier lists.

I’ve done keys on feral too, would you prefer I log out in feral spec before commenting?

They are not at all good rn.

“Think” implies doubt. They’re down bad.

Who crapped in your breakfast?

Calm down man its a video game no need to get your knickers in a knot :man_facepalming:

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Lowest completion rate.
2nd lowest representation.

Must just be a meme.

And yet 100% your top keys are as FOTM boom or FOTM resto? I can’t imagine why. It’s a real mystery.

Your feral keys aren’t even close.

Must just be because tier lists are a meme though lol.

I think you’re looking into what I said a bit too much.

Tier lists are a meme and frost dks could use a buff can both be true statements.

If you’d like an example, look at any tier list released at the start of dragonflight. Most had balance at B or C tier.

To be fair, I can probably count on one hand how many Feral keys I’ve ran. It’s a bit annoying to gear it up when I’m maining resto for raid. That said I’ve ran 16s on it, which I consider to be adequate to reply to you lol.

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As it turns out, you had nothing to say at all.

Thanks for your contributions to the thread.

No you? Post on your main.

Frostafarian-Firetree is the Frost DK im complaining about.

This is my vanilla character, I’ve just always posted on this.

Edit: Also can you not see my characters from here? If not apologies for using your Radier (dot) IO in the argument when you could not see mine. Not a very fair playing field.

I don’t use the forums very often.

I do keys almost exclusively as feral(did 1 as balance at like +8 and a few below 16 as guardian), we’re low-mid on single target and “Above average” on sustained cleave, while low-near bottom for burst on both aoe and single target (feral doesn’t… really burst compared to other classes) very little of note on utilitiy (bres - can be provided by someone in a better role/position, eg rdruid, or a lock/dk that can also dps, typhoon, we’re not the only one with knock, ursols/mass entanglement, rarely needed and we’re not the only source, innervate, literally never been needed, takes us out of form eg 2 globals wasted(we also have the highest downtime of anyone using bres because we have to leave form, hardcast it, and return to form), natures vigil does almost no healing and if we dont spec into the capstone for regrowth on the bottom left our regrowths are… 24k

Everyone is dying in a +18 RLP, can I offer you a 24k regrowth in these trying times?

eg above average aoe, average at best single target, among the lowest burst both aoe/cleave, no unique utility, no noteworthy utility, can’t offtank, not particularly durable compared to others (eg no raw HP/stamina increase or baseline mitigation), and near worthless offheals unless you spec hard into it (sacrificing personal durability/utility to do so, still fairly weak offheals and not what you bring a dps for)

Thank god blizz spent an entire patch redoing our entire talent tree to change effectively nothing except slightly nerfing feral to begin with. Coupled with the pvp nerfs it becomes “what class do I want to play instead…” because the situation isn’t any better in raids. I can actually perform at my simulated dps. It’s not high enough to meet the barrier of entry for mythic raiding.

I’d rather have no buffs/changes at all than a nerf, not all attention is good attention.

tldr: “meh” in M+. below “meh” in raiding, and a fat ~25% nerf in pvp coming tuesday “with” survivability nerfs to one of the most historically squishy specs in pvp

Frost DK is great, OP what are you having trouble with?

Here is a video I link to all new Frost DK’s to keys. It should help.

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Not sure what my raider IO even has to do with the fact. Tier lists are just opinion pieces. You can argue that Frost is behind, but saying things like “F tier” is overdramatic.

Let’s use Subcreation as an example. The highest Frost key is a 23, the highest Feral key is a 24. Feral is ranked A tier, Frost is F. Quite a bit dramatic, no? That’s probably not fair though, because Subcreation ranks specs based on representation, not actual performance.

Let’s use content created tier lists. On WoWhead, there was a video of Balance druid being placed in C tier, and clearly that isn’t the case.

Ever relevant statistic disagrees with your opinion, many of which were already brought up in this thread.

Best of luck to you in the future.