You’re the one obsessed with anti-cheat software. I said voice chat isn’t anti-cheat software.
No one is disagreeing with you there but not everyone has discord installed. Having a default VOIP system in game ensures that you can use voice communications without the need for an outside application.
You’re saying modifying the game client to disable a feature that you do not like is acceptable. Even if it breaks the Terms of Service.
Killing a process is not altering game files. Really starting to wonder why you care so much.
And Mr Trolladin (Gundox) is still at it, despite his rhetoric being nothing more than hot air without any substance whatsoever…
So, Mr Know It All On A Soap Box - please point out the specific line(s) in the ToS that give you any firm ground… at all
Oh, Wait, he CAN’T, because it does not exist.
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Your computer or your internet connection might be having technical issues if it caused you problems. However you can disable it easy. Other people have no problem with it, not do they have an issue with it. However most people still use outside voice programs, ie Discord. Just because they are better for long term grouping.
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Well mostly true, the first iteration of the concept was terrible, and most disabled it and never looked at the new version. Personally I like the new version, as it causes no problems with the Computer, lag, or client. But then I have a great Gaming system, and excellent quality internet. (although I wish I was in Europe or Japan for the Amazing internet speeds they have.)
I just noticed he’s a Human Paladin.
Thanks for the fix by the way.
no worries, just tired of baseless trolls that have no point to existence other than to be contrary and argumentative.
I did post my ‘fix’ in a fresh thread so it’s not lost to the walls of text:
Also, for any who actually care to give the EULA (ToS) a once over (https://www.blizzard.com/en-us/legal/fba4d00f-c7e4-4883-b8b9-1b4500a402ea/blizzard-end-user-license-agreement), there is nothing there (nor has there ever been) that states we have to allow additional processes to RUN (except for the mentioned anti-cheat, but even that is subject to L/S/F laws - which btw was never a point of contention by anyone except by Mr Trolladin On A Soap Box).
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Thanks I bookmarked for future reference. Also if Blizzard cared they would delete these threads.
meh, no point in deleting. make a statement/take an official stance, then lock the thread… but no deletion. This is not 1984
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Paragraph C Part III
hacks; i.e. accessing or modifying the software of the Platform in any manner not expressly authorized by Blizzard;
This can be found at
I don’t seem to actually grasp how you both think it would be okay for someone to stop processes that were deemed necessary by the creator of the software other than the fact that you don’t actually understand that they have all inclusive rights to how their software runs. You do not get to take a piece of software developed by someone else, that is copyrighted, and slice pieces out of it because you don’t like them.
The EULA you linked clearly states you are not allowed to modify the software in any way without Blizzard’s consent, which you clearly don’t have. Preventing a process from launching clearly qualifies as modification. Just to clarify too, even if you don’t see it as modification because you are intentionally trying to be dense you can NOT even ACCESS it, without using it in the way that BLIZZARD DEEMS APPROPIATE, you know, entirely what I’ve been saying for the past 3 hours that you can’t seem to understand.
We the Unwilling, led by the unknowing, have done so much for so long with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing
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You just admitted that you acknowledge that it’s breaking their EULA and that you don’t care, which again, is a legitimate stance. That’s been the whole argument. You are arguing for something that is against Blizzard’s EULA, as it stands now, you are nothing but in the wrong. You can argue that Blizzard needs to change that, but YOU agreed to that EULA, so don’t complain about it after the fact. Either don’t agree to it, or agree to it and be complicit, otherwise you are no different than others who break the EULA for other reasons.
Edit: Love how it took you 3 hours to finally say “Yes mr soap box pally, I agree with you that it is violating the EULA”
yep, troll. you just keep going like the gnomish bunny, trying to force your own point and warping statements to your own interpretations. /flush
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It does pretty dramatically inflate loading times, actually.
That stopped working. It disables use of voice chat, but the module still loads and bloats loading and lag, as well as all the voice chat system errors at runtime. So you get literally all of the downsides no matter what.
“People are turning off our proprietary feature because of stability and resource issues. Maybe they’ll start using it if we make the stability and resource issues happen ANYWAY!”
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Gundox, you truly are a special kind of special Trolladin -
Nowhere in the WORLD does it state (or even imply) that blocking a process from running constitutes ‘hacking’, ‘exploiting’, or any other term actually used in the EULA.
Further, ANY process or portion there of can be blocked, despite a ToS/EULA written by the all mighty themselves, if it violates (or is permissible) by L/S/F, which BTW now covers a whole hell of a lot of ground in the US thanks to DHS and growing cyber threats.
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Agreed. My issue is the longer load times when zoning into an area that loads with voice chat (regardless of me not needing to use the voice chat). Dalaran of Broken Isles is the worst loading time of any zoning I have. When I have disabled the exe in my processes, load times are longer, each zone in has system messages reporting errors with the voice chat.
The problem I have with Wowvoice proxy: longer load times.
I suspect some of the lag maybe the audio and other devices (plugged into my system that I use for other purposes) as the game tries to connect/detect all of the plugged in items, before it finishes loading in the zone. All of these devices can be seen in a drop down menu in game settings somewhere. If somehow I can tell the game to not try to detect all of my devices, then maybe I can not have these longer load times?
idk for sure. not a programmer. I just know what I see after taking over a minute after I load into Dalaran of Broken Isles: Voice chat system messages.
I hesitate to use my Dalaran hearthstone because of this extra long load time. disabling voicechat process used to speed up the loads, but as mentioned in posts ages ago, only lengthened the load time.
Summary:
This is still an issue for me even today, hasnt gone away since Legion went live. Several workarounds I’ve tried, patches nullified workarounds, and/or made lag worse. I wish the problem would be found and resolved.
I would like a user interface option to disable WoWVoice Proxy, not player-made work-arounds that might become useless after patches, so my load times are back to being smooth as butter, and not taking so long that I miss pulls of the first batch of trash in groups.
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Turn off battle.net on launch.