It does take a lot of discipline to avoid the alliance and not play to your greatest human potential. I’d be proud of that discipline, too! 
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Saberon have nothing to do with any Alliance content in this expac. They arrived with the Mag’har and ran into the Barrens. Y’all can’t have them, they’re ours.
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Mechagnomes are the equivalent race to Vulpera. They’re re-skinned minor races on each side of the islands. The only difference is that we helped the Mechagnomes and you burned the Vulpera alive.
I suppose the Horde should start getting salty about the fact that “omg we helped the Mechagnomes and they joined the Alliance” like y’all have been about the Nightborne, right?
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I must admit, it is impressive.
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Yeah, you need to pony up a source for that quote. So far, it’s just you pretending he said it.
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Alliance had better questing in vanilla, I guess they figured that they should favor Horde for the rest of the game’s existence to make up for that.
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I could easily see a Vrykul group joining alliance to reunite with their evolved “family”: humans. Especially given that there is a lot of Titanic stuff this expansion and they may have been a sect that followed Tyr, and worshiped his sacrifice fighting minions of the Old Gods.
Both sides did quests for Nightborne and Mechagnomes. That argument holds no water.
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Alliance have had better taverns since Vanilla as well. Aside from the inn in Goldshire all of the Alliance inns are pretty clean, warm and inviting. Goldshire should only be entered while wearing a hazmat suit and welding mask.
You know, Blizzard can make stuff to explain these things right? Cough… lorevoid elves… cough. Oh yeah, I forgot every interesting races on this fictional world belong to the Horde, sorry.
Uh, no. Vulpera is a completely different race (species) sharing skeleton with an old race. And Mechagnome is… gnomes with mechanical limbs, lol, thanks blizz.
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Honestly with all this classic hype it would have been the perfect chance to push out OG races to both sides on retail. Give High Elves to the Alliance and Ogre to the Horde. Failed marketing chance Bliz, just saying.
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Sorry got to disagree here. Void Elves were Shani Edwards’ pet project, down to giving them HER personal hair style and naming a NPC for her. It was even mentioned in video interview that as producer she had nixed other options.
Again, Blizzard has the capacity to add whatever they want, with Void Elves being a prime example.
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At this point, just give Blood Elves blue eye options and dismantle the faction divide. It would do a lot of good for the story and the world, especially since the faction conflict story is so contrived and forced now that you have to write the characters as backwards and dumb to even have it happen.
As for the other race options: I have no idea where this Sethrakk for Alliance came from, but this was far and beyond any other potential. They would never be an Alliance option, nor was there literally any indication that it would happen. Same for the Saberon. Both of these races are associated with the Horde and barely touched the Alliance, and they’re not at all distinguishable models. If you look close enough, you could easily tell from the way their eyes were painted into the model that they would very likely never become playable. They look amazing, yes, but they were never meant to be.
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What? I can’t remember when the Horde had friendly interactions with a faction of Saberon. If there is some indication, please tell me.
Well, before Burning Crusade, the elves of Quel’thalas had every reason to not join the Horde, guess where we are now.
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With the faction divide squashed does it even matter?
Not a faction, but we do help a few small nomads out while we’re questing in Gorgrond. Do the Alliance have any interaction at all?
They didn’t have any reason to join either faction, really. They were isolated from the Alliance and still upset with them. Not to mention they’re, you know, sentient. Saberon are on the level of Quilboar and Kobolds.
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The are not cultrally the same at all.
High elves believe in discipline, dignity and loyalty.
Blood elves believe in Survival at all costs and elitism
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I think we do, the only thing I can remember now is we also had a Saberon garrison follower.
Exactly, the Blood Elves didn’t have any reason to join the Horde. Not saying they should’ve been Alliance either.
Blizzard just do what they want and it’s time to give Alliance an insteresting race for once. The whole allied race system has been a complete wreck for Alliance, so bad I laugh everytime I go to that screen.
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Now wait just a second. I didn’t ask for Vulpera. I’ll give them to you. Please, I’ll pay you to take them. I don’t want these damn furries here. PLEASE! TAKE THEM! I’LL GIVE YOU ANYTHING!
I mean, that’s honestly why I said just get rid of the faction divide. Real talk, it causes so many unnecessary problems that it would just benefit everyone if it goes away. It’s clear they can’t balance story, mounts, races, or anything in an acceptable way with two factions. So remove them, focus on story, improve customization across every playable race (blue eyes for Blood Elves, for example), and just do away with the factions entirely.
Honestly, it might just be the same thing for both factions. All I remember is staring at their faces (Claws Of Shirvallah) and thinking how weirdly caved in their eye sockets were and how ugly they’d be if made playable. Believe me, I’d love them on either faction (I main Horde but I’m working on Alliance characters, too) but they need a huge graphic overhaul before then, lol.
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I can’t imagine he could be proud of much of what he’s done here if he’s honest with himself. Which I seriously doubt he is.
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