I’m sort of regular on the forums and noticed the nochanges folks a while back, and they were/are part of the reason classic doesn’t interest me as much as it could.
You have no idea why mobs back then had single tag from the first attack on mobs. It was to promote grouping.
10/10 guild name my friend I would also have liked Murloc Madness as well to keep it more simple. I chose this name because I give food and water to all my alliance comrades
Grouping was part of the old Dungeons & Dragons influence that every MMORPG had. Community wasn’t the focus of WoW though, there’s a distinction.
Vastly different class types and abilities did more to promote grouping than mob tagging ever did.
From my point of view, competing to get single tag is part of the competition. Not always, but it’s part of the fun in the open world play.
So socializing has nothing to do with forming the community experience from joining other forms of socialization groups like party, raids, or guilds. You believe more on a game design aspect than a social aspect which makes no sense at all.
You are ignoring those social influences that create those communities and its cultures.
Socializing isn’t always positive. It can also be negative and have players whisper those players with negative things for “stealing all those mobs”
Yes, OP. Most folks knew about the nochanges. The initial movement that started this whole thing was from the crowd that wanted no changes (the private server crowd + others). I would assume based on your post that you just heard from a buddy and tried it out.
No harm no foul, it may just not be for you. I get it…Many aspects of vanilla I don’t necessarily like. I’m a TBC/Wrath guy…I’m still playing, but also hoping for TBC servers to open up in the future as well. in their original form. just like classic.
But I’m still playing it and enjoying it.
no one I know wants any of those things. most people I know quit because of the first two.
I did not know there was a #nochanges movement until I actually started playing again.
What in fact surprised me is that there are actually people calling for QoL changes because I assumed it would be understood by pretty much all, especially returning players that Classic is classic, warts class imperfections and all. Ie no changes for as long as Classic remained classic.
This doesn’t mean I am opposed to any QOL changes on the basis that they’re all bad, just that Classic is Classic and people should not expect any changes.
I would love for Classic to move beyond Classic though. Maybe TBC … Wrath.
I am all for this. On separate serverz
I would not have played otherwise.
Clearly you weren’t interested in playing Classic as a Vanilla experience?
Even without knowledge of the “#nochanges movement” as you so call it there was no intention for changes.
The whole point of Classic was a 15 year celebration release of an “Authentic Vanilla Experience” as announced by Blizzard when it was first conceptualized. There was never any intention to make any QoL changes, because you know, that completely disregards the intention of the release.
OP, the develops themselves are #nochanges on the things you mention.
I certainly did know about it, as I was posting on the forums for a decade about how much retail sucked. When the idea of classic servers came to the public consciousness I wised up about changing others’ game and advocated my own.
However I can certainly see there being a contingent of folks who never posted on the forums or ceased doing so for a few years, who would be unaware of the goings-on.
Oh I believe it. Even the new progression servers for EverQuest are more popular than P99. His Changes would attract several other segments of players, resulting in a far more popular title. For the same reason that retail is retail.
- and then it would fizzle out of course
So?
Another attention seeker posting ‘bye’, just go, no one cares.
And yes, anyone who was interested in Classic couldn’t have failed to be aware of #nochanges.
if that is the case, why aren’t hordes of people sitting at level 60, 70, and 80 in retail playing vanilla, bc, and wrath content?
Because they’ve played through it and moved on. The term Content Locust is apt.
As someone who never played WoW ( just one very short month of retail about a year ago), I kinda wish they would keep content coming that didn’t mess with the spirit of Classic even though I’m 99% convinced nothing is coming after the currently announced phases.
As a huge fan of the older MMOs I’m hoping this huge interest in Classic shows Blizzard, or someone, that there’s still an interest in the way MMOs used to be and we’ll start seeing better MMOs that aren’t glorified mobile games. I mean even this is casual compared to some of the other ones, but it found a good balance.
TLDR I think this game probably has no long term future but I’m excited to see what it causes in the industry. Hopefully something good. I haven’t been excited about a game in a while.