Did Uther break the Engine of Death?

I just watched the first Shadowlands Afterlives cinematic. Fantastic, Blizz.

My question is pretty simple: Was the casting of Arthas into the Maw the initiating event for the engine of death breaking?

It seems to me that Uther ascending and going after Arthas was outside the normal process for the Kyrian. He did not let go of his past life, and it seems like Arthas circumnavigated the Arbiter.

This could be an interesting twist that Uther’s justice actually is what breaks Shadowlands.

Thoughts?

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Don’t think so since people are saying Ysera was one of the last souls to be properly sorted and the engine broke sometime around Legion.

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He entered Shadowlands with a wound to his soul–something that isn’t supposed to be possible. Something was already off. Hard to say what throwing Arthas into the Maw changed, but we’ll probably find out soon.

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arthas redemption , kills sylvanus

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i will kinda mad if we dont rescue arthas from the maw and bring him to nerco lords

Could it be that Greymane inadvertently broke it when he broke that lantern in his confrontation with Sylvanas in Legion?

Yseras soul was also ascended by a god too though, that could have something to do with her not being trapped in the maw.

The Arbiter is in on it, they are tired of judging souls and the creeping things gnomes do behind closed doors. They let Uther through to start it all.

I really think Frostmourne is to blame. It capturing souls messed up the normal process of where the souls are supposed to go and how they end up there. That and necromancers as a whole could be an issue

It kind of sounds like Arthas’s fate wasn’t determined by the arbiter but instead the kyrian lady and uther decided to claim vengeance by throwing him into the maw. It could’ve just been they portrayed it weird but that’s what I got from it.

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He said it was not vengeance though

He can say it wasn’t but it certainly wasn’t justice, due process and all that.

Nah, I think that’s pretty much what the implication is.

Kyrians are generally supposed to bring recently deceased souls to Oribos for judgment, but Devos and Uther took Arthas straight to the Maw.

That was my understanding of how things worked as well. But the Devos, the Kyrian training Uther, seemed determined to do something outside of the normal “Path.”

The Archon even said “The order of the Shadowlands depends on the execution of our eternal charge.”

We know from as recently as the tauren heritage quest that Cairne passed on normally, so no.

Right, the both of them definitely wanged it, but I don’t know if that was enough to cause death to immediately start breaking down.

Having someone tossed into the Maw without being judged might’ve alerted the Jailer, though.

It most likely was vengeance, as implied by the fact that they really didn’t have arthas be judged. Because I have a feeling Devos knew that Arthas wouldn’t be punished because it’s obvious that he’d probably be exempt for most of his deeds due to simply not knowing how dangerous the sword was. Since it was stated it came directly from the maw by them.

Having Kelly and Arthas reunited would be great.

Then they tag-team Sylvanas and start a buddy-cop spin-off series.

Speaking of Arthas reuniting with people, I wonder if Jaina will see Arthas. Since she will be in the maw in the SL prepatch.

That’s true, I am looking forward to see if something progresses from this or if it will be a tiny story on the side…