Did the draenor have loa

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I am thinking of questline in spires of arak and am asking did draenor have loa

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As the Draenei are overwhelmingly Light worshippers I kinda doubt it.

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Potentially.

Wild gods now just means spirits related to nature that came into being by all the Spirit energy on a planet, which Draenor looks to have had, with things like Anzu, Sethe, and Rukhmar.

So while they are not likely “loa” because that’s a troll thing, Draenor likely did have it’s own set of wild gods the planet exploded into Outland.

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Sethe is potentially a loa if we can judge his appearance and the way the Sethekk worship him.

I’m not too sure about Anzu and Rukhmar worship. :thinking:

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The Arrakoa worshipped Rukhmar :smiley:

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loa and wild gods are not azeroth exclusive.

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Since the concept of both Loa and wild gods seem to be connected to the concept of a ‘spirit’ element, it’s possible that Draenor had even more such creatures than Azeroth, but since there were no druids in Orchish, Ogre, or Draenei society they’ were probably only vaguely communed with by Shaman and did not have the same level of contact with mortals as the Wild Gods and Loas of Azeroth.

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If you mean loa as interchangeable from wild god, I don’t know if this really counts as hard lore but last week I recruited one from Frostfire Ridge that took the form of a wolf puppy and now he’s chilling out in my garden.

If you mean loa specifically, that’s just a troll term so I think you’d need to have one around to point to something and say “looks like a loa to me,” and Draenor didn’t have any native trolls.

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Yes, loa=Wild God. And we know Logosh existed in Draenor.

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We really don’t. There is a wolf spirit in Terrokar Forest, but it’s never said what it or who it is. The Orcs adapted the name Lo’gosh after hearing about him from the Tauren and simply assumed the wolf spirit on draenor was the same as the one on Azeroth.

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If by loa you mean wild gods then yes as others have said. The wild gods Anzu his mate along with their children, Rukhmar and her children as well as Sethe and his children can be seen as wild gods. The lesser children are just wild animals, but the greater children like the son of Sethe and Anzu’s mate are just as sentient as their parent/mate.

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Loa is not a class of god. Loa is simply whatever the trolls of Azeroth choose to worship. As much as gods like Kimbul or Hir’eek were Loa, G’huun and even wisps were considered Loa as well by certain tribes.

So given that there aren’t any trolls native to Draenor (perhaps barring Challe, but she seems to be something else), the answer is no, there aren’t Loa on Draenor. BUT if we were to reword the question to “are there Wild Gods on Draenor,” then the answer becomes different.

Beings such as Anzu, Ka’alu, Rukhmar, and Sethe certainly could all be considered beings in the same vein as Wild Gods from Azeroth.

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Arguably, the Talon King Terokk himself became one as well.

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At the very least Anzu, Ruhkmar and Sethe seem to be Wild Gods along the lines of Azeroth’s Ancients/Celestials/animal loas or similar beings from other worlds like Aliothe.

Draenor’s prehistory was such that those three were described by Chronicle as the only such creatures to rise in large part because only winged animals managed to proliferate and thrive during the spread of the Sporemounds, and since Draenor was a significantly younger planet than Azeroth, the amount of time since its reordering may not have yet allowed for the evolution of post-Sporemound fauna to produce their own elevated Wild Gods.

Moreover the presence of the Well of Eternity and its spilled “waters” in the wake of Y’shaarj’s removal significantly accelerated the growth and empowerment of life on Azeroth, so Azeroth may be an extreme outlier by having so many Wild Gods on a single planet. Most worlds may only have a small handful of comparable entities because their ecosystems haven’t been supercharged by the arcane blood of the most powerful titan yet discovered.

“Loa” is, thus far, specifically a troll concept in WoW, so if some trolls decided to start treating certain spirits or powerful creatures on Draenor or Outland as loa, that would arguably make them such going forward. From the start though, having no trolls of its own, Draenor wouldn’t have any preexisting denizens that would count as loa.

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Terokk definitely felt like he ascended to godhood in the same way as a Bwonsamdi or Vol’jin, yeah.

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The light zealots arrokoa worship him with Shrines and offerings in that small backstory for the scribe guy(dont remember his name as I havent touched the zone in a long time)

But seeing how most wild gods are Loa, it’s sure to say Draenor has gods in abundancy

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The Draenor Trio is almost certainly a perfect expression of Wild Gods, but Loa in the sense of gaining power through worship? Maybe, but I doubt it.

All three were worshipped in some way, but Sethe was the only one we know got some juice out of the deal which his followers may have picked up a couple empowerments. The Adherents and Outcasts did worship Rukhmar and Anzu respectively, but it was in the more traditional reverence sense rather than the give and take that Loa generally have. I’d say their relationship is more like the Kal’dorei and their Wild Gods rather than the Trolls and the Loa. Which is fine, as the Arakkoa are technically all children of Rukhmar.

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All of those beings however had a heavy element of Void to them, they were definitely not loa the way we think of them as. They did not form packs or deals, and they were specifically tied to the Skettis offshoot of the arackocra.

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Not Rukhmar! She was Light through and through! Anzu was only Void because he ate Sethe! Before that he was Arcane aligned.

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Most worlds do have Wild Gods, which is what Loa are. Loa are just a specific variant of Wild God, the same as the Celestials and the Ancients.

Rukhmar, Sethe, and Anzu are all easily classed as Wild Gods. It’s possible there are/were more in other parts of the world, Azeroth just has more because it’s both older than Draenor and has an actual Titan World Soul, which probably affects that to an extent.

Argus’ Wild Gods likely died thousands of years ago, probably specifically hunted down by the man’ari after they joined the Legion. In addition, on one of the Invasion worlds, the forested one, if you go to the edge of the map you can see a named stag that is clearly a Wild God as well.

So yes, Draenor, and most if not all worlds with life, had some form of Wild God.

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