Aside from the Silver Covenant there aren’t many Alliance high elves left, however
we would assume they are. There is a scenario where you see void elves showing void stuff to Alliance high elves near the mage tower in Stormwind. Though many players are claiming they can’t convert more, there is nothing in game to suggest they can’t and there is a dev interview that sounds like they can or soon will be able to. Both the number of remaining Alliance high elves and total population of Void Elves is also left vague. I think Blizzard likes to leave some things open to interpretation which is also part of the problem.
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Oh ho yes she is LOL. You watch her eat a VOID Naaru. Lady’s a High Elf in the streets but a void elf in the sheets.
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Alleria is something… unique. I’d say she qualifies as Ren’Dorei (child of the void), but she is most certainly NOT a Void Elf in same respect that those who were transformed by that interrupted ritual are.
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Sometimes I wish, Alleria could have just inspired most of The Silver Convent to learn her ways, so we coulda got High Elves, with the Void Racial passive that makes them go void mode.
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So much this…
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Honestly I feel like the “unlock” scenario should not have been the unlock but rather been in the game with the Argus patch, way before allied races were announced and a different unlock scenario put forward.
Alleria and High Elves from the Silver Covenant/Allerian Stronghold would go through a similar adventure with the player and those High Elves with her would be the ones transformed rather than Blood Elves. Then Void Elves could have been established to at least the same degree as the Lightforged were prior to allied races being announced and have some story elements to associate them with the Argussian Reach so their reputation unlock requirement made sense. A different unlock scenario would be done to unlock them as an allied race.
Then it would have been an easier sell to those seeking High Elves that the High Elves they are asking for are now Void Elves. But Blizzard didn’t do that. They gave us Blood Elf traitors with no establishment prior to unlock and requiring a rep they have nothing to do with.
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Not really; you only see “High Elf Wayfarers,” which are unaffiliated.
Plausible, but the problem is that there is no indication that any group fo High Elves did that; We don’t see any High Elves when we arrive at Telogrus with Alleria, only Umbric’s belf students.
And there’s the issue, cause now almost 2 years after their reveal, we have no new info in VE’s being able to replicate the process.
There’s a world of possibilities, but the answer so far is No. With the facts as presented as of now, there is no evidence of High Elves joining Umbric before the accident, nor if more elves can be transformed.
Like personally, I feel the whole idea of trying to replicate the process is… dumb. We know it’s dangerouns, VE’s were only saved from becoming something else by our intervention, they were lucky. It’s hard to believe to even try to replicate that event safely, because WHY would VE’s be okay with sharing this burden,
On the other hand, we already know that Alleria became a “Void Elf” on her own, by studying it and harnessing the essence of a powerful Void Being, so that is a personal path that is quite open for any High or Blood Elves invested enough to follow her footsteps. It could be seen as a safer way where the elf can decide at what “level” of the path stop -Alleria already had void powers before eating L’uura- it seems to be more able to pace and control rather than a arrested experiment.
A dev mentioned the possibility of giving VE’s more human like appearance, and this could feel like a way to do that, something that looks more like an in between. Or they can keep them blue and just say Alleria is an exception because she ate a naaru and the Light/Void cycle is what gives her her unique appearance and if other initiate ate any other Void Being they would just go blue, but still I feel this could be the better way of making Void Elves
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Yah, I mean if they had actually considered building up Void Elves in 7.3, they could have had Alleria be joined by Vereesa’s forces or her own Allerian rangers in her quest, and we see Alleria share with them through the experience what they have learned.
Instead of the "Argussian Reach"being a Krokul organization with no connection to her, they could have framed it with Alleria’s quest to help the void riddled creatures of Argus while she learns what she has to. All it would have taken was Alleria been more involved with the Argus krokul from the start and have her work as a liaison between them and the Army of Ligth forces, and frame the faction as Alleria’s efforts to create an alliance between the Argus broken and the AoL draenei, which they seem to have animosity.
It would have played more on her resourcefulness, and have them connected on their “forsaken by the light” themes, having the Allerian/SC Rangers bring their own relief to help the Argus Broken in a way that by the time Alleria consumes L’uura, the Argussian Reach is a fully mixed Krokul/Elven organization.
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Blizzard doesn’t care. Umbric as the leader only mentions the Horde, so either they are all or mostly Blood Elves.
Point is, it’s Alliance stuff, so it doesn’t matter - Blizzard.
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The real fun part is looking at the Alliance War Campaign after learning about what Void Elves are and how limited they’re supposed to be. Every single major battle, including the diversion in Nazmir that was specifically a suicide mission, had Void Elves comprising like one third of the Alliance’s forces.
If there were 1000 canonical Void Elves at the start of BFA, their numbers have probably dropped to 50-100 by the end, based solely on how eager they are to jump on literally any sword they can find.
I know! It’s like the Void Elves decided “okay what’s the easiest way of decimate ourselves”
Like for real, we didn’t need a Void Elf Army there, juts a couple of Velves opening portals and moving people and IDK Umbric saying that he wishes their numbers were greater.
I wouldn’t be surprised if by the end of next expansion, Void Elves magically have this large sustainable population.
Wouldn’t be the first time. They pulled a massive industrialized army out of The Hordes butt twice, despite always being a faction whose main story had always been “We have no resources, lets invade Ashenvale”
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Huh? I didn’t noticed this. I seen Silvermoon NPC’s and Void Elves…
High Elves are Blood Elves are Void Elves are High Elves
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They have at least a platoon in Nazmir and another in Zuldazar. I think they have somehow found a way to replicate the ritual and are turning more Thallasian elves into void elves to replenish their ranks.
Remember that story quest in Dazar’alor where we were told to open rifts to abduct horde ambassadors? Notice that most of the ambassadors that we kidnap were blood elves.
Some of the wayfarers that randomly spawn in Telogrus high elves, and recruiting velves also added high elves wandering around Stormwind.
According to the devs the Void Elves do not have a method of replicating the process… yet. But they are looking for a way to do so safely. Which makes the whole Nazmir thing very head scratching to say the least.
Even with that said, which Thalassian elves are they going to be converting?
The Alliance High Elves that supposedly are too few in number to be an Allied Race on their own can’t really add that many to their ranks, and I believe it would be a hard sell getting anyone, but especially those High Elves who want to disassociate from their Blood Elven brethren, to agree to being infused with void energy and having insanity inducing whispers permanently yammering in their heads.
Blood Elves seem more likely to engage in dangerous procedures to attain power, but just how many Blood Elf traitors are there that are also willing to have insanity inducing whispers constantly chattering away in their heads for the rest of their lives?
In truth, Void Elves should not have been present in any significant number in Nazmir, but wow’s devs have admitted that “there are as many as we need there to be” when it comes to in game visuals.
Bottom line is, Void Elves are unsustainable as a race outside of natural reproduction. If there aren’t enough Alliance High Elves to be a race, there certainly aren’t enough to convert into a sustainable population for Void Elves and that’s assuming any significant number would sign up for the crazy. Drawing Blood Elves into the Void Elf ranks is slightly more plausible but even then, how many would forsake Silvermoon and the Horde “for power” and all the baggage that comes with being a Void Elf? Not enough to sustain a community I’d wager, and neither High Elves nor Blood Elves could continue to sustain Void Elves in the long term.
Basically, even when Blizz decides to say “Void Elves have figured out to make more!”, it won’t actually do anything to help sustain their population. There’s a limit to how many individuals can be cannibalized from High Elves and Blood Elves and any and every death of a Void Elf is a staggering loss for them. Blizzard is going to have to let us know if Void Elves can procreate the old fashioned way and explain why their offspring aren’t insane tentacle monsters right out of the womb. Then they are going to need to explain how they can reproduce so quickly to sustain them as a species when they are constantly suffering losses from military engagements… or from simply falling into madness from the whispers.
As they stand, Void Elves are an unsustainable people.
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No they like to leave things vague so they do not have to come out and say “Yes we used lots of excuses for why High Elves are not an allied race for the alliance but the truth is it was all BS. We do not want to blur the lines between the alliance and horde anymore than we already have thus the alliance will never get High Elves.”
What I think happened is Blizzard assumed that they would be called lazy for giving the Alliance blue-eyed Blood Elves so they asked themselves: “How can we give them what they want but still give them something unique?”
But! Little did they know (even though they should have) that there is no pleasing the WoW community. They were called lazy anyways and jerks for not giving the Alliance blue-eyed Blood Elves.
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At least I can forgive the Horde’s boom a little bit more; like industrialization by itself made them more reliable on machinery than numbers, and tbh we don’t know how steady was the population growth overall for Orcs and other Horde races; would make a lot of the Horde a bunch of 12 yo’s… but at least it’s vague enough about the overall numbers.
Void Elves tho, they are a known quantity with not actual means of replication. Much like the Forsaken pre-Cata, but the Forsaken where like the undead population of an entire kingdom plus some from others, while the Void Elves are a… research party gone blue.
This is a lame take even in the most general of senses, but when we are literally talking about group mobility between these 3 it’s downright asinine. Try to pay attention to the conversation happening before joining.
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