Did Jolkien Rolkien Rolkien Tolkien invent the first Orc?

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So I know warcraft was supposed to be a warhammer game until something happened with the license and blizzard went their own way with the story.

So a lot of warcraft was just ripped from warhammer, but before that, did Tolkien create the lore of the orc that warhammer used?

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Orcs have existed in mythology for centuries. Tolkien popularized it is all. Also the orc lore in Tolkien is corrupted elves whereas in Warhammer its asexual green spore monsters, more a force of nature bent on war than anything else.

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There are no orcs in Warhammer fantasy or 40k.

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Somewhat more race developed by Tolkien.

The origins are as vague as Gnomes being spirits.

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Goblins, Faerie Folk, and Faerie Spirits have been around for centuries, thanks to the British Isles and their folk going ham on the local psychedelics.

ā€˜Orcā€™ or 'Orkā€™s have been popularized as human-esque Goblins.

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Invent? No.

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My mom is 53, so orcs have definitely existed long before Tolkien created them

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but thereā€™s Orks boi!

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Oiā€¦ who ya callā€™n boi ya git. Runty no bigga then aā€¦ then aā€¦ then aā€¦ gretchin!

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Donā€™t think so, pretty sure Orcs have existed conceptually longer then Tolkienā€™s creation.

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Leave da finkinā€™ to da Nobz. Now stop gabbinā€™ anā€™ strap your Tank Busta on. Dat Leman Russ is 'bout to go boom.

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Wellā€¦ they (Orcs) are mentioned in Beowulf. Which was written centuries before Tolkien was even conceivedā€¦

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A different word orc , [alluding] to a [demon] or ogre, appears in Old English glosses of about AD 800 and in the word orcnēas (ā€œmonstersā€) in the poem Beowulf . As with the Italian orco (ā€œogreā€) and the word ogre itself, it ultimately derives from the Latin Orcus , a god of the underworld. The Old English creatures were most likely the inspiration for the orcs that appear in J-R-R-Tolkienā€™s The Lord of the Rings .

The more you know :rainbow: :open_book:

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So you either think your mom is an Orc or have no idea when Lord of the Rings was published.

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It was more of a stab at my mother since sheā€™s clearly not as old as the book :laughing: But definitely looks like it

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You know what the scariest thing about Orks is? Their religionā€¦
thru the power of sheer faith they force their technology to work no matter how improbable it is.

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And Raizul was never heard from againā€¦

chuckle

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Guess I have to get a few good licks in before the end :laughing: