I’m replaying Chrono Trigger after not playing for years. In it, there’s a queen from an advanced civilization 14000 years in the past who leads a glorious civilization. In her vanity, she creates a palace at the center of the planet to steal the energy from the evil creature living at the center of the planet. Her plan fails, and ends up destroying the advanced civilization and breaking the planet’s continents apart. Sounds a lot like the Sundering. I know blizzard “borrowed” stuff from Warhammer Fantasy in the past, so I wouldn’t put it past them lol. Not that this is a big deal or anything, I just found it funny.
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Original ideas is not Blizzard’s strong suit so it’s not all that surprising.
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Blizzard borrowed from many, many different pieces of fantasy. Warhammer, LOTR, Forgotten Realms (see: entire magic system), etc. It would not surprise me if the idea was taken from Chrono Trigger.
WoW is literally so unoriginal it doubled back on itself and somehow became one of the more unique and original fantasy universes.
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Wasn’t Orcs and Humans going to be a Warhammer game until Games Workshop revoked the license?
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IDK. Probably.
no, the original plan for starcraft was to be warhammer, but games workshop screwed the original blizz team over and revoked the license after blizzard had already invested piles and piles of money and work-hours into developing it. starcraft came after that as a total and complete mockery of everything that was warhammer 40k.
it’s why the terran marines are such irreverent space rednecks, they’re a thematic rejection and inversion of the fanatical priesthood that is the astartes and other imperial orders in 40k lore.
that’s also why blizzard never contracted to develop a third party IP ever again.
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My guess is Dragonlance, actually. The Sundering has some parallels to the Cataclysm in that series. The pride and arrogance of Azshara is almost a blow-by-blow copy of the pride and arrogance of the Kingpriest of Istar.
A few writers for Dragonlance did work on Warcraft. It’s partially why there used to be lore about Paladins and Priests looking down on Mages and thinking they were doomed to hell when they died. The same exact story element can be found in Dragonlance, and was part of the fall of Istar.
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I’m okay if they did. There are far worse games to take inspiration from than Chrono Trigger. And the events of 12,000 BC were the best part of its story too, it tied everything together in a very nice way.
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Blizzard is a game made and inspired by many things that already exists. And even jokes about them in game.
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Sure, make me sad about Schala all over again
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It is far more likely that it was inspired by the Cataclysm in Dragonlance, especially seeing as how Chris Metzen and many of the other OG Blizzard employees were big D&D geeks. Chris Metzen was a huge fan of Dragonlance, and that’s why Richard Knaak penned many of the early Warcraft novels (he was one of the big names in the series of Dragonlance novels).
https://dragonlance.fandom.com/wiki/Cataclysm
EDIT: There is a LOT from Dragonlance in WoW. For example, the gnomes that we have are ripped straight from Dragonlance. Traditional D&D gnomes are more akin to forest sprites, however in Dragonlance they were presented as being technologically advanced, with machines and gadgets that often did not work, were overcomplicated, or just exploded.
Troggs appear to be ripped from Gully Dwarves.
There are many similarities!
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i don’t know, Blizzard is more concerned with a message of progress, inclusive and diversity in a game that is not based only on humans, and in passing we see more marie sue with super powers thanks to the scripts that’s keep up a great lore in this last times.
Chrono Trigger is one of the few games about a Dream team that has made it big for everyone and it didn’t come full of nonsense.
About time changes, nothing happened for more than we saw in WoD, the after life, so far I did not see anything bad, but I doubt that I have a good ending if it follows a course where we only see more of a female character how to load with everything the universe.
Besides, no matter what it looks like, you will never have this soundtrack.
not really, as there wasn’t a lot of landmass in the age of antiquity - most of it was floating in the sky.
Tbh its a really common trope.
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Bull… Warcraft is clearly an original invention and not a carbon copy of a popular UK 28mm miniature game that turned Blizzard down when they wanted to partner up to make a video game.
I’m sure they’re happy about that business decision today, specially since virtually all WH games are flops.
Hail, Atlanta!
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Gdubs most definitely does not make great decisions when partnering with video game companies…
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Chrono Cross is maligned just as WoW is now!
Furthermore the Dream Team for Chrono Trigger was originally creating it with Secret of Mana’s Environment Assets only for the SNES CD ROM Add-On to be canceled forcing the Dream Team to cut out everything(and I mean everything!) and shove the Environment Assets into Secret of Mana
https://www.giantbomb.com/chrono-trigger/3030-9249/
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Forums/index.php?topic=9933.0
Schala suffering the fate of getting stuck in the Time Devourer and only got released(by the Chrono Cross) after it consumed her Kingdom of Zeal appearance leaving her with the appearance she had before the Magic augmentation her mother started.
The Time Devourer isn’t even dead at the end of Chrono Cross and now has probably constructed a copy of the Zeal Kingdom Schala at it’s core desiring the End of All Things(due to the real Schala desiring it in despair when Lavos grabbed her)!
Considering the removal of Schala required weaving Timelines together sending everything else into the Darkness Beyond Time you know an incarnation of Queen Zeal is going to be seating herself atop of the Time Devourer desiring to fulfill it’s wishes(which would be Schala’s traumatized wish for the end of all things)!
She probably has manifested Avatars of herself in various Alternate Universes though obviously not into Alternate Timelines which have been dumped into the Darkness Beyond Time!