The ones where they said “you can finish before your coffee gets cold!” and “got 10-15 minutes? You’ve got time to delve!”?
How did this go from design around 10-15min dungeons, to somehow having every hotfix make it take longer?
Spending 30-45 minutes in a delve, simply because things are health sponges, is not good gameplay.
On my DK, 20 minutes tops. On my Priest, damn near 45.
I imagine it will eventually be a 10-15 minute thing. We are week 1 after all.
I put delves on the same kinda type of gameplay as Visions were.
Yeah it’s a mixed bag in terms of how quickly some classes and specs can do them. For me it’s about 30 minutes because I’m waiting for CDs to come up before I go to the next pull in a lot of cases. I feel like delves will die week after next, given the bulk of people will be geared past what they can offer.
Chelmi sips some tepid coffee while watching…
my healer pre nerf was doing t8 devles in around 45 minutes. now it’s like 2 hours since brann hits like a wet noodle. thats if i can get past mobs that 1-2 shot me since brann also doesn’t aggro anything no more. all in all, i will just not do devles. it’s for tanks, pet classes, and or groups now i guess. it’s to bad, i actually used to enjoy devles now they are just a boring, pointless slog.
tbh they do feel a bit longer then they should but, how could they make them retain difficulty while remaining short? They could boost the lethality even more so it becomes a situation where you kill them as fast as you can so they don’t one shot you, but idk feel like that would make a lot of angry people based on the complaints we already see.
Idk what happened here, but the fact they added in super tough T9 elites to a T8 just tells me everything I need to know. Why would you ever even do that?
Maybe they meant in the time you can drink 3 coffees?
That’s only accurate about a tier 1 delve.
I suspect its because the T9’s was intended to be in the T8s in the first place. That or T9 was intended to be the highest gear track but they nerfed it down to 8 but forgot to put the new npcs in there. I don’t see it as a malicious thing, likely was just trying to fix an oversight and people didn’t like it so they walked it back.
But they had 3 months of beta to adjust this stuff.
I do have a coffee warmer, maybe they knew this?
Very sneaky of them.
It’s Blizzard, beta is just a sales tactic not a testing phase.
With or without stopping to fish?
You’re assuming the developers pay the slightest whiff of attention to what beta player say.
The developers know, in their hearts, that they are ALWAYS right, everything they make is perfect, and all the feedback the beta testers are giving them is always wrong.
It isn’t until everything blows up in their faces that their error is obvious.
This isn’t new. Azerite armor? Covenants? It’s a long history of failure on the devs’ part.
To be honest there is a disconnect between developers and players because developers look at the data, yes they also listen to player feedback but that player feedback is pick and chosen from staff members intended to deliver that feedback to them. So there may be a bias on what is chosen. I suspect that it’s not the developers fault entirely as they can only work with what they see. They could try to go purely by player feedback but if they read this forums themselves and tried to fix all the concerns players had…well, lets imagine how well that would actually work.
They also need the higher ups to stop doing those “influencer interviews”. They need to be working, not mugging for the cameras.
Let the marketing people do the marketing. (If they can…)
My last tier 8 delve took me exactly 13min22 seconds according to my DBM as a 602 ilvl prot warrior, so I think it’s pretty fair in term of advertisement, especially if a DPS spec can clear faster than me!
The damage intake in Delves is fine, it’s the mobs HP that makes it a slog.
It’s weird that Vampire Survivors understands how HP should work better than WoW does and it has like 5 trillion mobs on screen.
“Why is a delve with recommended ilvl 600+ taking me 45 minutes to complete at ilvl 580. THIS IS REDIUCLOUS”
Do you even understand how absurd you sound.