DH Still Worst Class, Still Ignored

Serious question, is reading not a strong point of yours? I literally said:

Can check the parses and see he isn’t routinely beating anyone but people that green parse heroic but okay. You should post your main so we all can know what a good dh looks like!

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Maybe if you read slower you’ll get the point I made.

Maybe if you didn’t join every thread just to derail it you would get around to saying a point

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I made my point, but the fact you still don’t get it isn’t surprising.

exactly why nobody is reading what he is saying and he wonders lmao

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You literally responded to me in this thread. I’m really questioning cognitive awareness at this point.

You’re probably looking at my raid parses, which I’ll readily admit are subpar. I’m not very fond of raiding and don’t invest much time or energy into it. When I talk about DPS, I’m almost always referring to Mythic+ keys. I think you’ll find my parses in M+ are a bit better. Not exceptional, mind you, but better.

Honestly, I believe a significant part of the issue is that primary stats (strength, agility, intellect) have once again diminished in value overall. The damage scaling from main stats should improve so that players with better gear, even if not ideally itemized, can more easily out-DPS someone with lower-level gear.

To be clear, I do push keys, and while I’m not claiming to be the best, the team, players I run with, and I can time 10s and 11s. So, we’re all reasonably competent players, and that’s my baseline.

Of course, I’m fully aware there are players who will perform poorly regardless of item level, just as there are exceptional players who can extract incredible DPS from certain classes.

There are always exceptions to the rule. However, in general, it’s clear to me that someone at Blizzard really loves paladins, as they’re currently tuned exceptionally well. I’m not even suggesting Paladins be nerfed. I just want underperforming classes, especially in M+, to be brought in line with Paladin DPS.

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this might come as a surprise to you, but people are less likely to think you are agreeing with them if you come out the gate throwing around insults and claiming people don’t know what they are doing or talking about. When you do that, people are also less likely to read your whole post. This isn’t the first time you’ve entered into a thread with a “maybe you should learn your class” type of response and it completely ruined any chance that one had of being civil from the start, so maybe you should reevaluate that kind of “advice”

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That one high-school kid that starts a conversation with an insult.

I’ll stop immediately as soon as I don’t see 10 plus posts every day blaming the class and spec by people who parse green or gray. I have a feeling I’m not going to have to change much.

In other words, you’ll stop complaining about people complaining as soon as they stop complaining?

Or is that you only value the words of the super elite and not the casual player? If that’s the case, you’re in the the wrong place.

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Don’t insult other peoples’ parses while hiding behind an alt lol

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Go find a single post where I talk about my performance relative to other classes/specs. Otherwise, you look foolish, as always.

He’s not a good reference—he was literally invited to a team with all 3k IO players to run keys, and in most of them, his damage was close to the tank’s. If you watch his streams, you can see that before that, he was stuck and couldn’t even get invited to a +12. Or when he runs keys, his damage often ends up below the tank’s.

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While obviously scaling can be an issue, there’re two reasons as to why this is not the case:

1- Havoc scales completely fine with secondaries and primaries (mastery scaling is through the roof in particular)
2- Scaling in the long end means nothing. If Blizzard decides to buff you by 20% even if you don’t scale, you’ll be overpowered.

Havoc’s defensives used to scale well with leech and I loved that to survive you had to go all in all the time

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Objectively speaking leech was never a ‘good’ defensive. It saved you when you didn’t need saving.

Defensives are used when you’re in risk of dying. Leech doesn’t prevent those situations.

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I question your definition. There have been numerous times leech alone has saved me from dying (on my DH), especially during high damage pulsing situations where the healer either wasn’t expecting it or unable to keep up for some reason.

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I appreciated the tankiness then. We used to feel a lot more durable.

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