Same drill, offensive “CD” serving as a defensive. No thanks.
Fair point. Any ideas? I’d rather not tie it to nether walk. Nor do I like the idea of button bloat (no matter how small).
New CD, used for defensive purposes.
It’s not button bloat, it’s a button that does what it’s meant to.
No! That thing kills you if you fight an affliction warlock. 2.7M damage if you dispel unstable affliction.
No movement abilities should be a rotational DPS button.
A root break added to movement is fine by me and makes a lot of sense.
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charge on warrior literally breaks roots, they have actually 5 ways of removing roots, we have 0
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Depends how they add it into the kit… but I’d rather have it attached to Vengeful Retreat though I know people would disagree.
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Holding DPS CDs for the sake of defensive sucks.
It sucks holding Meta when you have to use it as a defensive, it sucks holding Blade Dance as a defensive. VR will suck just the same.
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I think making VR remove roots/snares baseline would be huge for us. Glimpse could be changed to either break all CC types or full damage immunity while flipping.
If they baked one of the talents into blade dance, it makes more sense to me to have it be the deflection one. That way you could talent into healing reduction if needed, but you’d naturally have another way for skilled players to play around the lackluster defensives they refuse to buff or change.
If they ever get a wild hair and decide to address our F-tier defensives:
Make blur stronger or reduce cooldown by 25-50%
Darkness should get similar treatment or a rework. Triple the size or have the current one move with the DH. Maybe shorten CD to 3 minutes.
Taking nether off the GCD would be very kind as well
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Still miss blade dance with 100% dodge avoidance for 1 second.
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Most of my thoughts on this would come from PvP so it would work on VR in that case, don’t know enough about PvE to have an opinion on that. However I think Felrush and VR shouldn’t be part of our dps rotation anyways or do damage ect lol
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Yeah, as a PVPer, I need movement for movement. I don’t get 100% uptime on targets and I don’t have the luxury of using movement just to boost damage.
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It was admittedly problematic to have a rotational defensive like that. Became even more problematic when it was not compensated for as other classes started getting brought into the defensive powercreep that kicked off going into DF.
DH needs substantial buffs. Bottom of the barrel in boss damage (with FDK) and not even good on cleave fights they should be good at.
Blizzard hates FDK and DH for some reason.
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100% agree with this take
If you mean Frost Death Knight, Icy Veins has them categorized as an S tier dps and Havoc as C tier. Frost DK is also consistently in every team with top rated IO atm.
They are fine in M+
I was talking about raid: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#metric=bossdps&dataset=90
Edit: They are also both trash in pvp
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https://mythicstats.com/dps?dungeon=&period=984
good news, we have near to win the last class in rank dps in m+
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They need some scarier damage back. Like meta is just so underwhelming. You look at ret paladin, enhance, dk they are all doing damage equivelant to our meta damage.
You pop meta and its like “okay im actually playing the game now” once it comes off your side lined and laughed at.
Its just rubbish, they need to buff out of meta damage, or alternatively give meta more damage and also let it proc so we are in meta a lot
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exactly, meta damage is what baseline damage should be
its terrible
im basing that off M+ to be fair, that being said its where DH should shine yet on pulls with meta your only just matching the DPS of other melee specs lol then meta ends and your doing tank DPS
Id say prot pally even does more DPS in M+ right now when meta is off
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