Dh nerf question

Help me understand something if you guys will. Plenty of people are calling for DH nerfs and while I’m not sure yet if I can call the SL changes nerfs overall that’s not really the point.

Point im trying to make is why do people want to nerf dh so badly? Hear me out for a second. Bm hunters are clearly superior in almost every aspect. Half the time their top damage is melee and auto shot. Yet people get riled when my top damage is eye beam or something. A frost or fire mage is clearly rewarded more for better playing and both of their single target blows dh single target out of the water cause Gpie and Giant icicle.

With all this in mind, why do people want to nerf dh so badly? Do they simply want to nerf it pvp? Rouges are still superior overall and most comps these days are rouge mage. Even then why should Dh get nerfed in pve just so someone can beat them in pvp? I just don’t understand why people are calling for nerfs when there are clearly more op classes and classes that reward you more then dh. Note I’m not asking to nerf any of these classes but logically speaking a nerf should go to the class that’s topping the meters consistently in raids and m+.

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It’s just a meme people spout. I hardly think anyone really cares.

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The WoW forums are a vocal minority so its best to keep this in mind while sifting through the threads.

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Havoc also punishes bad players and this can be quite obnoxious to fight against if you don’t know what you’re doing.

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The ones who usually get mad over this DH thing are ones who need to place the blame elsewhere for their own bad DPS/gameplay. Afterall isn’t it easier to just say “Durr DH stronk is da reason I’m so bad” instead of actively doing research on your class and spec to improve?

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You just get a lot for doing nothing. Like if you drag race a Tesla vs a 80’s charger. The charger might lose cause the Tesla just needs to press on the accelerator. Not worry about gears, or engines overheating or traction. On my survival hunter I have 45-50 keybindings. On my DH I have 15.

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Comparing survival to anything is not a fair comparison cause the spec is trash. comparing dh to bm is a fair comparison. You wanna talk about getting a lot for doing nothing? I’m tired of being outdpsed by auto shot and melee that’s liegit just right clicking the mob

Agreed. Nerf dh’s, and buff enhance shamans!

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Now I’m convinced it’s a meme

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The only ones saying nerf DHs are bad players. DHs aren’t too represented in mythic raid. They’re not crowding top spots in gladiator rankings. They only use 0-1 in M+ tournaments.

But

The average DH vs the average player in WPVP, DH always wins because of their CDs that bad players don’t know how to counter.

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complexity vs simplistic classes and class abilities. If memory serves me correctly I think Blizzard at one point spanked Bm Hunters this expansion. May have been more than once I don’t remember.

Players see DHs being rewarded for simplistic game play vs another class having to work a little harder to be at the front of the line and it’s not liked. Maybe that’s the reason why for the call for nerfs.

Yeah a good player knows to kick eye beam. No eye beam no furious gaze buff then survive our meta and we are dead

Just to add to the wpvp thing before the actual people who hate DHs come here and read this pro gamer tip; if you fight a DH in wpvp just stunlock them and you win every single time. It will save you so much time since you won’t have to come cry on the forums about nerfing DHs.

But again simplistic gameplay can be attributed to bm hunters as well. I’d like to see where this xpac bm hunters were bad. They weren’t always top of the Meters this xpac but they have been consistently good as far as I know and their gameplay is just about as simplistic as dh with the only more complex part being refreshing barb shot.

DH are just are annoying AF hence why they get meemed on so hard.

I’m not arguing the point that Bm hunters are not simplistic in game play I know they are I’ve played one since Vanilla.

Again however, BM hunters also if memory serves me correctly received a Nerf or more during BFA to reign in their damage, I do not think DH has or maybe they have who knows.

I wouldn’t call them objectively overpowered… but they are by far the most powerful class in the game with the least effort required for that output. Only BM Hunter comes close to that ratio.

I think DH and BM are bound to feel overpowered as long as they’re even slightly overtuned because of how simple they are to play. Anyone can pick up those specs and top the charts because it’s a lot harder to make mistakes.

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I guess that’s the plus side to dh and bm, even if they get nerfed they will always be objectively easier to play then other classes meaning a good player on an easy class can do pretty well in a dps race against a good player on a harder class still seeing a hunter outdps me with a auto shot and melee is a little on the demoralizing side

yes remove that flying ability, also nerf blade dance, you dodge everything every 2-3 seconds, and those immunity frames you have with meta

Again this game should not nor should ever be balanced around pvp

DH’s have a high level of utility and sustained DPS and plenty of escape plans without many cons.

I haven’t PvPd in about a year since I took my long break (I just recently came back) but that was my biggest complain tin arena above 2k.