DH lacking in average overall for dungeons

Hi, I’m feeling a bit weak when I play dungeons with people that know what they are doing and have a close ilvl. Single target is okay but AoE not so much.
(I’m taking into account the super OP bee trinket, read this as everyone is using it).

Just to clarify, I’m not talking about random people you meet in dungeons, I’m talking about players that are actually trying to do damage.

I wonder if it’s just me or if the class is underpowered for average overall damage…

The hardest content right now are heroic dungeons and it isn’t a good measuring stick.

Havoc’s full pack rotation combo is like, what…
Immolation Aura
Eye Beam
Fel Rush if Inertia
Essence Break
Vengeful Retreat (off gcd)
Blade Dance
Meta
Blade Dance
(Glaive somewhere in there if Aldrachi)

So 7-9 total GCDs to max out your damage in comparison to say a Fury Warrior (I have no idea how to play fury but I know they don’t have to commit as many):

Thunderous Roar
Slayer Strike
Champions spear (?)
Bladestorm

Maybe 5 total to get into your core rotation? Less?

The packs die too quick for Havoc to shine in babby content.

Something I think could go a LONG way is reworking eye beam CD. Cut CD in half and nerf the damage outside of Meta and actually give us the opportunity to use demon surge more than 2 windows outside of meta. Would also allow us to actually hold meta when we actually need it for big burst windows/sticky situations. With the amount of mechanics in the game you miss one eye beam window and your slapping a pool noodle around for 40s- doesn’t feel great…

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Ya has been but getting worse a lot of the DH streamers swapped this week to DK/Druids/hunters they can solo up to delv 9 plus in DPS specs. Dks being the most egregious with hp poping over 22mil and armor spiking in even unholly spec they take next to no damage in delvs past 9 in crap gear. Where ive seen properly geared 590 plus DH get shredded in dungeons and delvs, even veng tanks take more damage now and dps and healing are just sub par to do delvs, I.E a small spider will blow a hole through you.
And in raids dps dropped aoe specs do to little st, st spec is trash for st on bosses pareses better than it does meaning something is off even Wowhead cought it. And the middle of the line spec that parses trash does mid line of both and is recomended spec. Blizz dropped the ball they new all this months and months ago but still keep kicking DH wile they are down dev is 0 peepen.
Also takes more gear to do equal dps to a low geared pally or warrior, even rogues and hunters are ripping, shamens not bad.
Afliction for lock is good but that used to be a pvp spec, demo is now bottum bit is more player preferred, no one was a fan of aff Blizz is out of touch.
DH are mid to low dps in high end groups, but only excell in mythics aoe but other classes can out aoe once geared up.

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I strongly disagree. Doing tier 8 delves on my vengeance main whose 597 and doing just fine.

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