Now that aff is properly culled the remaining outliers are DHs and DKs, in that order. Trim those two back and the meta feels pretty horizontal. Are there any other outliers?
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Warlock hands typed this. No one except warlocks try to act like warlocks have been properly nerfed yet.
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DH, unholy DK are on a level of their own, it’s not that they are insanely oppressive (which they are) it’s that 99% of the time you cannot punish them for it. Both are almost entirely unkillable in normal circumstances.
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I don’t play lock. So ya… no.
I can objectively look at those nerfs and assess that lock dots took a huge hit, and their passive healing and shields took a huge hit, and dark pact took a huge hit.
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he’s a mage/boomy player, actually
im fine with casters languishing for a few more weeks tho
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Ya agreed but I find DH to be a tier above DK. There is literally no drawback to them. Every other class has a drawback. DH is hyper mobile, invincible, does insane damage, has insane utility… list goes on. DK has a lot of those things but at least they have to waddle everywhere.
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It’s not really waddling when you have 3 grips and a 70% spammable slow while you yourself are basically immune to slows.
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yo where are these hook me up
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Death Grip, Death’s Echo, Abomination Limb?
Do you really not know your own talent tree?
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I only see one “Death Grip” there.
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The gentleman didn’t say 3 Death Grips. He said 3 grips.
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DO NOT assume their gender please.
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ah so one i see damn sucks i was excited
u cant get deaths echo, it would appear it is U who dont know the talent trees!
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Yeah its about time rogues are subpar for 1 expansion. Rogues have been top tier for 23 years. DH are fine at lvl 70, they arent even in the top 10 specs. DK might get a slight nerf eventually though as they are unkillable 1v1 at lvl 70
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Also need demo lock, spriest, and fury nerfed. Oh and aff nerfed 2 more times.
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spriest is absurd
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Who told you rogues are subpar? Assa damage is beast right now with the proper downside being they can actually die. Also imagine defending DH at 70 lmao, stop they are just as absurd and S tier.
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always thought having death’s advance, ams, and icebound fortitude at once was crazy, add well played grips and dks will always be a nightmare as long as their damage is tuned well
currently think death strike tuning is a little off (op) thanks to a conduit though
y’all really out here complaining about dks 
that class is like mid tier bruh u need help
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DH is fine where it is. Put us in a root and all your problems are gone. If the DH reverse magic the root, Mind Games or Soul rot them and kill them. Stun them around 50% so they don’t blur… hell most stuns will hit through blur and let you dps them anyway.
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