I am all for adventure, but why it has to be so dull and uneventful? Pandaria did it so much better.
We have forgettable characters and forgettable villains and we’re asking ourselves what are we doing hwre actually Dragons are stronger than explorers they should be able to deal woth their problems alone. So in DF we learn that dragons are super incompetent and not really needed but we reward them for their mediocriticy.
That person is probably no thinking straight because they think DF is great game play when it was a snooze fest.
I had more fun doing apexis dailies in WoD than DF world quests. Yuck.
It is the first expansion I didn’t read quests. I just zoomed trough it. Seemed to political and real life Bs influenced. If they do with next expansions as well , I will drift away from lore for sure
DF game play and class design is probably a low point as well based on what I am seeing in TWW alpha.
If DF was " a return to basics" they failed badly.
I wish we had the speed of S03 on all seasons and we mostly skipped stupid stuff like normal dungeons or heroic dungeons. Just call them flex and make em drop dif ilvl in them.
M0 is the first gearing barried then m2s and so forth.
There’s a lot of “waste of time” when a huge part of the systems will be ignored in it’s entirety when S02 comes out.
I might just skip TWW s01 after reaching max lvl and come back for S02 if the KSM mount looks like crap.
DF story was pretty forgetable as TWW will most likely be. After WoD, WoW weak writting got even worse.
@VHX: Ever get the feeling we are being used? We do all this dangerous epic hero stuff, always for someone else that we ourselves had nothing whatsoever to do with, we in the end vanquish all the crap, then get discarded like a used Kleenex.
Alot of times at the end of an expansion, I tell myself, I shoulda skipped all of this and gone fishing, because in the end, nothing changed or got better, LOL.
Same thing happened in legion. People complained and complained about it the entire time it was here. And overall it’s viewed as fairly favorably. One of the best if not the best for many people.
MoP probably just edges it out in what people consider the best to have been. But it’s up there for many.
I think OP just has a bad memory. It has some of the my favorite quests. The old guy at the edge of Ruby Sanctum. Sendrax sacrificing himself after bonding for the first few hours. Waking shores was IMO the best part of leveling.
Also. “The villains are forgetful. Except literally the two most impactful. And I still remember the other two lol.”
I think overall Dragon Flight was better than SL but even then I still have a more favorable impression of SL than many on the forums.
Raszageth is bae, and Fyrakk is my fire daddy.
In all seriousness, aside from them being super memorable, I absolutely loved everything to do with the Dracthyr and their struggles. Their identity, the civil war, ideological conflicts, and concerns over their future were great. The sadness, suffering, and hope was pretty well delivered, imo.
The Black Dragonflight stuff was pretty mid. Like, Wrathion and Sabellian’s childish arguing was, like… too forced. They should’ve reined it in a bit, because it looks like neither of them grew up at all. We all knew where that story was going with Ebonhorn in the end, but it absolutely could’ve been done better leading up to the finale at Sarkareth. Some more reserved voice acting would’ve helped at times, too. I liked the bickering when they felt the madness, but it was pretty cartoonish at times.
Vyranoth can be interesting, but the problem is Alexstrasza is one of the most cardboard characters in the game. Sure, we’ve all crapped on The Jailer for poor characterization (which was justified), Alex’s voice acting is sooooooooo borrrrrrrrrring. Everything she says, every line delivery, is just plain baked potato bland. It kills every scene involving her, and if she’s at the center of a questline or event, it murders the immersion for me.
I also noticed a bland quality with Alexstrasza. It’s like she is just directing others to do what the others suggested anyway, and then tries to take credit for “being in charge”. Yet I don’t get the feeling she really has any strong opinion one way or another. It’s basically, “Oh, we need to live in peace, and leave us alone, we are better together, yadda yadda yadda, you guys all sort it out.”
they need to make WoW dark again. DF was a furry rainbowy simulator and it was terrible story wise.
Dragonflight shouldered the necessary burden of rebuilding WoW’s foundations after the “borrowed power” era. It will remembered very fondly in the next few years and will be viewed as one of the most important expansions in this history of WoW.
It’s like you read my mind.
My view exactly.
I don’t like MoP but the Jade Forest intro experience was lit.
DF by comparison… 
Some of you will insist that but it won’t be the case.
people said the same about legion during legion. And now it’s top 3 for most if not the best or second best.
Thats probably for the better tbh.
Bruh, people comparing DF to Legion triggers me slightly, NGL.
It’s so cap.
The underlying theme from vanilla → cataclysm was horde versus alliance.
MoP was unpopular because it seemed to be verging away from horde versus alliance. Millions came back to WoD because it’s advertising was based on the return of the orcs and horde versus alliance.
I loved MoP. I have mained a monk ever since. I didnt like WoD - the levelling was good - garrisons weren’t only bad - but you spent most of your play time there alone. Warcraft feels like an MMO when the world is packed with players (like Valdrakken right now). WoD had the reverse effect.
After WoD the overarching story of Horde versus Alliance was gradually lost. Story themes were about the retirement, the demise of or descent into madness of key characters - often horde leadership.
They eventually ran out of people to go mad - though that’s still part of the story arcs for alleria and anduin.
I liked legion - one expansion of borrowed power was good. The attempts to maintain borrowed power systems in BfA and Shadowlands were awful. I loathed BfA and Shadowlands.
I enjoyed DF and there were elements of the story telling I liked and always plenty to do.
However, I did not like what they did to Wrathion - built up a character for over a decade and then turned him into an adolescent beset with temper tantrums who was sometimes imbecilic.
Their challenge is to build new story over the next three expansions. It’s not easy given how messy story has been for so long and it’s now horde and alliance together against the big nasties - with horde mostly neglected (most of their main characters retired or went crazy) so little story arc focuses on the horde.
If they are going to make xala’tath the big enemy would be good to feature more of their back story other than the tidbits we know. And as it looks like there’s a new enemy titan or similar that will be developed over the next expansions then give us lots of backstory in game.
My guess is if they get desperate they will try to refloat horde versus alliance but I dont think it could work… but maybe blood elves could join the alliance and draineii go to horde as a result and boom the faction war is back. Probably too hard and disruptive. Or maybe they could develop new enemy races and make them playable as a new faction.
That was kind of the point of it.