DF abandons WoW’s solo playerbase... but why?

Years of feedback about the leveling experience trump your feelings honey.

You don’t have any proof.

WoW devs, content creators, and some players think that any content in the open world is solo content, even though a solo player is going to get wrecked by some rares and elites, and is going to have a huge disadvantage when farming gear-related currencies.

Open world content may be casual friendly, but you can’t call it solo content if you can’t actually…. solo it.

The Soup event is completely soloable, although you won’t get the best rewards. Some of the Hunt bosses are not soloable.

Even the game text itself calls the events “group content”, by the way.

If you need other players to complete content, it’s not solo content. I don’t have a problem with seeing other players in the world. In fact, it’s great to have help.

The problem is that I can’t complete world content on whatever toon I want, whenever I want.

You are making up stuff about me that I have never even said.

And you are saying all open world content is solo content, even though numerically it is tuned for groups and the game text itself calls it “group content”.

Who’s the troll here?

Even the part where it can spawn 3 elites? The final boss?

or are you only saying it’s completely soloable because you can get the reward without doing those parts?

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The fact that it has 126 likes is scary. Truly scary. DF has been the most casual friendly expansion TO DATE. I’ll never understand.

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Solo players and smaller groups can’t possibly get enough Aroma to spawn the Bisq legendary mob. I haven’t seen the three elites spawn for smaller groups, as the game may prevent it if not many players are around.

Yes, you can easily finish the weekly Soup quest and earn plenty of rep by doing tasks even if no one else is around. (Rep gains are not maximized and you will miss out on certain drops from Bisq, though.)

Contrast this with the Hunts, which don’t get finished at all if you can’t solo them.

I never grouped and got Legendary (3).

But to you that’s not solo gameplay somehow.

Legion, BfA, and SL used to put casual and solo in the same boat of open world content.

Now DF is saying that it’s OK to be casual and PUG your open world content, but it’s not OK to be a solo player anymore.

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I wouldn’t, for the same reasons I wouldn’t recommend Fifa or Call of Duty to a turn based RPG fan.

There must have been other players around. You can’t possibly earn enough Aroma for Bisq if only one or a few toons are doing the event.

A solo player can join the event and get the full rewards without joining a party or raid, if enough other players are there. A solo player can also finish the weekly quest without other players there.

The Soup event is the least important issue, by the way. The Hunt, the Siege, certain elite World Quests, and certain super rares cannot be physically completed by undergeared DPS toons without tagging or grouping up.

Which no sane person would say isn’t still solo play.

If you need other players to reasonably do it (either by tagging or forming parties/raids), it is not solo content.

If you can do it completely on one toon without tagging or grouping up, it is solo content.

Just because content occurs in the open world doesn’t magically and automatically make it solo content. That depends on how the content is designed and tuned.

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This is the most insane thing I’ve ever heard.

“people are around me!”.

Of course they are : this is an MMO RPG.

Maybe you should go play a single player game if you want no one around you.

BTW, I solo’ed one of those “super” rares at ilvl 350 on my MM hunter without a pet.

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Let me repeat: The problem is not that other people are around me. The problem is that I need other people to actually complete daily and weekly world content.

Never needed them. Sounds like you’re just not that good.

You don’t set the standard just because you can do it.

Just doesn’t work that way.

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I have a hard time trusting a site that lists me as having 1 alt.

You put any scrunty on their “data” and they’ll just double down.

Some world content is intentionally designed and tuned for groups. You’re just going to have to accept that as a fact.

You may love DF for catering to group players and want to defend it. You may approve of the war on solo players. But if you keep claiming that all open world is automatically and magically soloable just because it happens in the open world, you are denying facts.

I mean, I kinda do though.

Nope. You can literally sit by Scout Tomul and get credit. That’s just not tuned for groups.

If you don’t need to group, it’s not group content. It’s solo.