Basically another BFA…
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That’s what a guild is for. I really wish people would stop defending PUGS.
That’s a truly bad viewpoint, sorry. If that were the case, then when Ion said back before WoD that there would be no flight going forward, we should all have just sat back on our hands and said nothing? Or do what the players did, and raise a ruckus at such a stupid idea.
Don’t think for a moment that they cant work on stupid ideas. They are human and they make mistakes. And we pay for it by playing through those mistakes until they start welding on literal patches over the holes to try and make the game stop leaking subs.
It may be changed but not before launch is the point I’m making.
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There will inevitably be guilds recruiting only specific class/spec/covenant combinations, and guilds that tell people in their M+ teams/raid teams/PvP teams to change covenants or they get benched - or worse, removed from the guild entirely.
What this covenant system does is rely on human beings to not be crappy. It is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect human beings to not be crappy.
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I highly highly highly doubt I will be excluded from any content. Im a dk main and going with necrolords because I think they are super cool. And in the end if some do exclude me it will be for the best because I never enjoyed playing with people who went so far as to say you aren’t viable, we don’t want you.
I will go out of my way to pick people up with or without meta covenants and I guarantee you we will clear the content, but more importantly we will be having fun while a portion of wows community laments over having to choose between what they truly want, and what spread sheets and theory crafters say is OpTiMaL.
I’ll definetly be back here on the forums boasting. Just wait.
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Only cutting-edge guilds would ever have that prerequisite, but even then, players intending to join those guilds already know that flavor of the month trumps everything.
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It’s most likely possible for all content, outside of the really high M+ keys, to be done by all covenants. That much, I’m not contesting. It’s great that you’ll try to go out of your way to be the exception, but you being an exception does not suddenly make most of the community be the exception, too. You’ll likely have times you don’t want to lead your own group, and you’ll likely inevitably run into people that will exclude you because of your covenant choice, as will most everyone that plays the game during Shadowlands.
It’s like I told the person before, the covenant system relies too heavily on the expectation that human beings won’t be crappy, which is unreasonable and unrealistic to expect.
You would be surprised how many guilds there are that don’t do cutting edge content but have strict requirements for their raids, or M+ runs, or PvP. Most people, when given the choice, will go with the most optimal set-up possible, and this extends to guilds recruiting and managing their current members.
Anything can be fixed. It’s rather like that line from Armaggedon - they have to have backup plans for their backup plans because they are Blizzard. I don’t believe that there aren’t alternate systems on the database that could be worked on because testing and feedback has proven how problematic something is. And if worse came to worse, they could delay launch - it’s not like it would be the end of the world if we had to wait another month to get the sort of expansion we really need.
Because the way things are now, it just seems to me that they are digging an even deeper hole for themselves, and for us. Albert Einstein said it best: Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. It would be insane of them to just keep repeating their mistakes and hoping for a different outcome.
you think its going to be cutting edge only? im not going to take say a night fae dps into anything about +5 as i have no reason to have somebody thats suboptimal. if i was still raid leading id be enforcing x covenant for y class for normal as well
My only lingering lament is that a part of me would like to “collect” every possible class-covenant combo, but I’m actually looking to cut back on the number of alts I play regularly, maybe even go outside once in a while.
they will if they dont want the key to fail
We’ll find out Oct 26th.
Which is more or less exactly what many people said prior to BfA, after repeated input on the problems relating to power issues and Azerite gear. In fact, it’s rather what many people are afraid of - we will indeed find out when it launches.
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So he lied about the Ripcord? or He’s Lying now?
It wouldn’t hurt so bad if it wasn’t a blatant pattern of behavior dating several years.
“That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool’s bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire” describes you perfectly Blizz…
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Still not changing. 
Ill be back in 9.3 when it dose to hear your awnser
I’m here for you.
Sounds dramatic. Im sure you will be just fine, or perhaps adapt your strategy and embrace a challenge than picking the “meta” for X content.