This is my second post on this subject, for the love of god change this so it’s no longer a skillshot and it directly targets devos, people with 200 ping will get direct hits and the hit detection always fails
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It being a skillshot is fine, the targing of the skillshot is the issue. If the hitboxes hit it should always bring her down this dosen’t happen right now. Its nothing to do with ping. The hitboxes hitting exactly just wont bring her down.
Its a bug nothing more and the bug need to be fixed not it changed to a direct hit. You having to think and time the spear not just toss is fine so long as they address the bug with it.
It being a skillshot is not fine and it is definitely to do with ping.
It’s literally impossible to reliably hit her with 200+ ping as anyone who’s done this fight in an Oceanic/US mixed group already knows.
Having the success/failure of a key depend on a WQ vehicle mechanic is pretty much the worst thing about Shadowlands.
It most def dose not have to do with the ping. When it has been reported to show as a hit in the combat log yet not pull her down. The best guess I have seen so far is the spears or devos hit box is odd so the damage (10 percent of hp) of the spear hits with a larger aoe than the pull down effect. The pull down dose not show up in combat log so can’t say if that hit.
But the vary fact she takes damage via the combat log but dose not come down and has been reported with pic vid and log evidence to blizzard a number of times by a number of different players shows that is is a bug one that is not consistent but dosent do with ping.
If it was ping based meaning you thinking you hit her when you dint as you don’t see where she is correctly would not be showing as a hit in the log:
Which is exactly what happens.
There is more than 1 bug associated with this boss. It’s not fine at all.
I’ve seen her come down when the spear appeared to miss by 5 yards on my screen. And I’ve seen her stay up when the spear hit her in the middle of the chest.
If someone’s ping is so high that they are seeing her location incorrect something that I’m sure can happen. That is not a issue that is the player needing to get a better connection or letting another player do the spear.
No different than you missing a int since your ping is to high to react to it. Or many other examples.
The issue with the boss is the bug that a hit that did hit her dose not pull her down even no it registers in the log as a hit.
It being a skill shot is completely fine so long as that bug is fixed.
There is no better connection that will help someone’s ping from the USA to Australia or vice versa.
It’s not fine.
No different than you missing a int since your ping is to high to react to it.
Except one player missing a “int”, whatever that is, is not going to brick a key after 40 minutes of actual gameplay. They die, you res them and move on.
This situation is totally different since it’s a guaranteed wipe mechanic that is totally reliant on ping. It’s also that you don’t know if you’re going to hit by this bug until the very last fight of the dungeon. If Devos was the first boss or the first trash fight it wouldn’t be nearly as bad.
There not being a better connection dosent make it a blizzard issue.
Just like it’s not a blizzard issue if you can’t get a kick since your ping is so high you don’t see the cast in time.
Or you don’t get out of the fire fast enough as you lose 3 secs as delay.
She sits in each spot for quite a while if your ping is that high than waiting for the move than tossing means you miss your seeing a delay of about 5 plus secs that’s a player level issue at that level.
The issue is only that it can bug and a hit that dose register dosebt pull her down.
Yes it actually does.
Just like it’s not a blizzard issue if you can’t get a kick since your ping is so high you don’t see the cast in time.
Literally all of Australia played with 240ms ping for the first 6 years of the game’s history.You can kick just fine, and do any class/mob mechanics just fine, and complete any content with a 200 ping.
But you can’t do the Devos spear with 200 ping. And that is an issue.
If you can make a kick with 200 ping you can also do the spear. Just watched a vid and counted there is 8 secs between each move. As such waiting till she moves than tossing at the new location you know she is moving to means unless you are behind by 8 secs or more you hit. Which honestly in the fight dosent seam like 8 secs till watching a vid outside of combat.
If you are 8 secs behind that is not a blizzard issue that is a player issue. At that amount you are no longer within playable delay.
I have played with 200 ping and even 800 ping he’ll I have even done devos and the spear at 600 ping it’s quite doable and just fine. 800 ping is about a 1 or 2 sec delay no where near a 8 sec. 600 ping was just fine wait till move than tossing same thing you should do even without delay.
The issue is only the fact a hit can show up in the log and not pull her down.
I just explained that you actually can’t.
If you are 8 secs behind that is not a blizzard issue that is a player issue.
We are not 8s behind. We are 200ms behind. And it is absolutely a blizzard issue that the spear mechanic can’t be done if your ping is over 100ms.
You might not be able to but that says more about yourself.
Fact is you can. Playing on my cellphone wifi I play with a 600-800 ping and do that when out of town. That is on avg a 1-2 sec delay and I have tanked spires doing exactly that up to and including doing the spear.
You most def can do the spear with 200 ms you can even do it at much higher levels.
It’s as simple as waiting till she moves as that means ahe has moved on the game side even if your behind and unless your 8 secs behind she hasent moved again 200 ms is not a 8 secs delay. If your 8 secs behind that’s a issue for the player to solve as that is not in the realm of the required specs for the game.
No you haven’t.
You can claim I haven’t till your face is blue. Fact is I have.
Fact is you’re lying
We’ve tested it dozens of times. The person operating the spear needs to have ping under 100ms to hit devos reliably. Tested with multiple characters in multiple runs.
You’ve never tanked spires with 800ms latency and everyone knows it. The entire game would be totally unplayable with that latency, not just the spear.
You can claim that till your face is blue fact is I’m not.
It’s not hard to hit something that sits still for 8 secs even with a 600-800 ping as that’s only a 1-2 sec delay, to be exact it’s sub 1 sec bit can spike and hense upwards of 2, not 8.
It is if you don’t where that thing is, because the client and server are reporting different positions due to latency.
Look, you’ve never tanked this dungeon with 800ms and everyone knows it. You’ve never attempted Devos spear with Oceanic/US latency and everyone knows it.
Stop arguing about something that you know nothing about.
You can make the claim all you want that I haven’t done something fact is your wrong.
Fact is have done exactly that and more than once at that. Playing over cell wifi results in 600-800 ms as shown by wow. Have done spores and the spear on devos like so.
You not being able to do something dosent mean others can’t. Fact is I have been able to do exactly that.
You do know where devos is due to her sitting there for so long between moves you know what direction she was heading in and you know when she moves on your screen as such you know where she in unless you are 8 secs behind and at 600-800 ms your not that far behind.
No, you haven’t.
It’s pretty amazing that you know so little about the game that you think that your story is any way believable.
You haven’t tanked anything with 800ms latency. Your buttons literally wouldn’t work.
You can claim that all you want fact is your wrong on that.