I am excited to see the new changes to Demon Hunter class. It may not be favorable to everyone but it is a good direction.
From JedithTV (youtube)
[ Quick update - it has been CONFIRMED that the devs understand the gravity of removing something like AMN and are fully prepared to compensate in other ways to allow things like immo/Ragefire/demonsurge to still do significant damage. It was also confirmed that The Hunt will scale with our mastery on its own!
We also got further clarification on how Cycle of Hatred will work. Each use of eye beam reduces the cooldown by 5s, up to a max of 20s. Once you reach the max of 20s it will persist for the whole fight ]
Under the current requirements of still having to stack all our buffs with EssB, I still donât see the Eye Beam CD as anything particularly useful though still. Assuming a perfect scenario where you can fully cast it on CD all the time and not taking additional delays into account with GCD, etc, youâd have:
40-20s Eye Beam, lineup EssB
0s - Eye Beam
5s - Meta Eye Beam + EssB
45s - Eye Beam + EssB
1m25s - Eye Beam + EssB
1m45s -Eye Beam
2m5s - Eye Beam
2m10s - Meta Eye Beam + EssB
2m35s - let Meta fall off
2m36s - Eye Beam (Delay EssB 6s?)
2m56s - Eye Beam + EssB
3m16s - Eye Beam
3m36s - Eye Beam + EssB
3m56s - Eye Beam
4m16s - Eye Beam
4m21s - Meta Eye Beam + EssB
4m46s - let Meta fall off
4m47s - Eye Beam
Total = 15
So really only 4 extra casts, only on such a long fight, in completely optimal scenarios. Itâs basically neglible in m+ as well if it only persists for that fight or falls off too quickly between pulls. It may give you a little more leeway for mistakes or time away from boss, but it still isnât actually useful as is unless Iâm missing some more important changes
Which is all very disappointing for me because I love Eye Beam and have hated not being able to take the CD reduction talent this whole xpac
On paper sure. But keep in mind that you wonât even see the benefit until 3 minutes into a fight (4 normal EBs + 20 seconds for the 5th) and how does this work if you go out of combat, does your progress get lost? I would assume so otherwise what is there to stop people from just building it up prefight to start with the 20 second cool down?
This also may not play well with our cooldown cycle.
New cycle is a actually awful, if this is what they had in mind it would have been a lot better to keep cycle as it is right now, cycle already provides more or less 20 sec of CDR for eye beam, and unlike this new cycle itâs always more or less 20, and there is no weird requirement other than just doing damage.
The new cycle is an embarrassingly badly designed talent
I hope they are making Sigil of Spite also scale with mastery baseline without needing AMN since it too is Chaos Damage that doesnât currently scale with mastery.
That would just leave Felblade, Demon Blades, Sigil of Flame, Burning Blades, and the aforementioned Collective Anguish as unmentioned damage losses from the removal of AMN. Burning blades matters the most among those, so hopefully something happens there, and Collective Anguish is indirectly buffed by the new Cycle of Hatred, and even without Mastery scaling may be better than the other two capstones just off of how often it is cast now.
It seems that none of the devs play demon hunters when testing or our class would have seen regular tuning and updates that the other classes get. Iâm tentatively awaiting these changes and will see how they work in practice. Some art updates would be nice. New glaives to transmog. Heck, even some glyphs. With Illidan gone my character RPâs something similar to a Witcher as thereâs still monsters to get rid of and pockets of demons to mop up. And some M+ teams have started to ask for experienced DHâs. Interesting times ahead.
I feel like content creators and big streamers just donât play DH so itâs extra ignored maybe? But Iâm with you on this, seeing every other class get a rework, updates, new visuals, buffs, new talents, ect over and over and weâre only just finally getting a small taste of that in 11.1 itâs ridiculous lol
This is true, DH content creators are few and are not as widely recognized as others, they do not have the same reach. This undeniably affects our visibility.
We do have Platinum wow who does plays demon hunters, he even made a great little machinima about them explaining their lore and asks where they are heading in the future: âSo, you want to be a Demon Hunter?â
sigh⊠feels like it
