Destruction AoE is a joke... wtf blizz

Rain of Fire literally ticks for 1300-1500 at 400ilvl…

Blizzard are you joking? Other classes AoE is hitting for 30-40-50-60k per hit and you have our 3 shard costing ability tick for 1500 because (you can stack it herpa derp) yes maybe cast 2 of them and that’s if the tank doesn’t move the adds because of sanguine.

Our AoE as Destro makes me sad and upset. Our ST and Cleave is fine but why are you forcing us to go Demo for Dungeons?

I just finished doing 3 Atal Dazar’s and had 2 hunters completely dominate the DPS meters on ST and AoE because of how much movement is In the dungeon. Even on bosses where im meant to shine with my big 3 minute CD I get outshined because of the movement.

My AoE dps was like 18k compared to the BM’s 30-40k and upwards of 50-60k dps AoE…

Yuck Blizz….

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I thought it was just me not knowing how to play my warlock.

I cycled through all 3 specs and couldn’t find one that did decent aoe damage.

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Wouldn’t this be better in the Warlock forums? Don’t the devs read those feedback forums?

Don’t warlocks have superior single target damage? Or is that just one of the specs?

Apparently “Cataclysm” is the top AoE talent… no idea how, though. When I play Destro, I spec into Fire and Brimstone.

Pretty much this.

Demo seems to be okay at AoE with Hand of Gul’dan, Implosion, and Bilescourge Bombers… but still seems a bit shaky without enough Haste.

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We don’t outperform on ST. We burst well with our 3 minute CD and then the dmg falls off. Some other classes sustain much better over a long fight.

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Destruction can do decent AoE every other pull, give or take. With Cataclysm and Doomfire though Dark Soul is the better choice for bosses. at least that seems to be the case when I play mine. Outside of those, it’s pretty weak. Affliction has the same issue in that it does decent AoE provided Phantom Singularity is up but may as well AFK if it isn’t. They should definitely buff Rain of Fire because it’s honestly a waste to even cast it it feels like.

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Fire and Brimstone is massively undertuned and does bugger all damage.

All the top warlocks who mythic raid suggest Cataclysm for everything.

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It’s almost like some classes and specs excel at different things, that some are great for AoE and others are great for Single Target while still others are a middle ground of both.

Look at Unholy DK in the MDI with some of the trash AoE pulls they spike upwards of 500k (Yes, Five Hundred Thousand) DPS while the other classes in the group can’t even touch that level of AoE.

Not every class should be a master at everything, in fact no class should be a master at everything. There needs to be diversity among the classes and specs and with that some will dominate Single Target and others AoE. Its even a thing with Healers, some are better at Raid/Group mass healing and others are dominant at Single Target Focused healing.

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I agree to an extent but being rejected from dungeons for playing a specific spec known to have terrible AoE is poor game design. You know it is.

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Only because there’s so much trash in everything that AoE is the best option.

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LMAO at a lock crying about a spec. Mage says hi where all 3 specs either suck and are in the bottom 3 and 1 lower middle. The best is you crying about a fire mage. Typical lock. Play one of the other specs that are in the top 3 for a lock.

First of all, there are always going to be groups who take the best comps and cut out everyone else. Classes like Prot Warriors, Rogues, and Resto Druids are in extremely high demand because they are the top meta atm and a lot of organized groups like to pull from that (as well as things like IO and such).

However, that problem always comes back to two major primary solution. Find a stable group to roll with (Guild, Community, RL Friends, ect) or Make your own group. Because, at the end of the day, no matter how close the classes and specs are to each other those groups who are declining you would still decline you even if everything was more equalized because they look at the Meta.

I get what you’re saying dude I do…

But why does my Main AoE ability that costs a stupid amount of resource, tickle for 1500 dmg?
It makes no sense. Buff its dmg by 300% and it will be on par with other classes… it makes 0 sense to leave Destros AoE as it is.

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As someone who also plays a healer priest at M+13-14, and swaps between Disc and Holy depending on the dungeon/affixes: You have no sympathy from me.

You have 3 DPS specs. Play the spec that’s appropriate for the content you’re doing. At least you aren’t playing one of the many hybrid classes that only have 1 (and MAYBE 2) option for the role they’re playing.

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With M+ all classes deserve to have good ST and good AoE.

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I can’t fathom why they do.

Yep. Uniqueness for the sake of uniqueness is poor game design.

Affliction is awful to play.

Destruction is nice and simple, but AOE is lacking.

Demo is also nice, but if you don’t get the correct procs your DPS suffers.

they recommend Cataclysm because it hits hard and applies immolate to everything. so its effectively our answer to the lack of “on demand” AoE. the issue with it is, it comes with a hefty CD and cant be spammed.

You know Frost Mages have way better AOE than any Warlock Spec

This hasn’t been updated since the beginning of Season 2, but Demo was up on top, now it is slowly declining since only 1 trait got nerfed.

@OP: Our AOE is fine. But it is based on Talent Choice and Which abilities to use.

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Thing is we have decent aoe. I have played destro ever since mop as my main. In BFA we excel at sigle target if you use your azerite traits for single target; and we have a whole other set of azerite traits for two target scenarios which is our main niche. Our two target burst is what keeps us relevant.

Re aoe I find that we do really good during heavy aoe mobs. Personnaly During reaping I follow the rotation of infernal, havoc, our 2 minute dps cd on the last tier, cataclysm, rain of fire, havoc, conflagx2, incinerate to 3+shards, rain of fire. Then swap to immolate on the 3 main health targets still alive, then havoc and chaos bolts to get them down. Using the summon infernal with the infernal buff talent that gives you shards is also a huge way that I get my dps.