Destro warlock and warlock class talent tree

In the end tier of talent tree (warlock general class) there is no talent useful for destro specific, there are talents that boost builds with pets (demo) and drain life (aff) and some other defensives, but for destro builds?

That’s because they took away decimating bolt and moved dimensional rift.
Though really I’d argue the only talent that truly helps a specific spec only is Grim Reach and only if you take ID as Aff.
All the pet buff talents are still good since every spec uses pets.

As per part of the new norm when it comes to warlock main-tree “remove any DPS gains from the main tree, and let em eat cake (or fel cookies at this rate)”

But yeah like Kazi said, we used to have cooler skills/cooldowns in there before they were removed due to non-existent feedback.

One of the major components i feel that plagues a warlock’s ties between it’s main-tree and it’s specs is that the baseline warlock toolkit is nowhere to be found or has been completely scuffed. Other than utility, pets, and defensives, shadowbolt, and corruption (which only gets used in 1 spec), we have little in the way that can benefit all specs at once…

so i’d imagine, going by that, it comes to a point where they no idea what to give us as a means of cooldowns, or interesting abilities that can be used by our three main specs altogether (As evidenced by some of the covenant abilites we ended up not keeping, save for one,) nor the willingness to add much new to warlocks other than making baseline features into talents we have to spend points on to get again

I really wish we could have decimating bolt in a future, at least for destro

And about pet talents, cmon those talents are a way better for demo that other specs, its not viable in any way for a destro o aff because there is not a “pet build” for those specs, they just use pets like “meat cannon” and stun or silence resource but not about dps for the talent “Grimoire of sinergy”

maybe drain life can be a bit useful for other spec but aff have “Soul rot” and “Inevitable demise” that sinergy really really well with “Grim feast” or “Accrued vitality”

And back to destro, we dont have any talent that sinergy with this spec like others

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While we’re on the topic, can we please swap the Inferno/Cataclysm node with Pyrogenics? Playing destro without Cataclysm feels terrible and having to choose such a weak, arguably dead talent just to pick up Cataclysm feels particularly awful.

Also, weekly plug to please make Soul Tap baseline or find a way to put it in the main talent tree. Most warlock-y spell we’ve gotten in a while, not sure why it is affliction-only.

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Soul Conduit and Grimoire of Synergy are pretty big amps for Destro. Boring amps, but they complement Destro’s kit really well regardless.

From a hyper-synergy perspective, the only spec that has a significant synergy is really Affliction with drain life, and maybe demo with Soul Burn + Health Funnel.

Soulkeeper and IG will probably never be modified to count as demon’s for Demo’s sake since the spec is performing so well. But this would have been cool if it interacted with Reign of Tyranny or Demo’s mastery.

it’s sad as it is to have to spend a talent point to be able to rain of fire of all things… least they can do is make it easier to snatch cata

Assuming nodes aren’t going to move or anything, here are my thoughts:

Burn to Ashes needs to stack to 6 imo. Even trying to incinerate weave, it overcaps constantly, esp during Infernal windows.

Make Havoc a 15 second duration baseline.

I’d like to see a minor Cry Havoc buff.

RoF could use another 10-15%.

Crashing Chaos buff should be 1 min instead of 45 seconds. Not a huge deal, but I’d like to see more flexibility in case of heavy movement.

Make Eradication 8 or 9 seconds instead of 7. With CDF and Soul Fire in the build, the 7 second duration feels pretty awkward.

Other notes:
Inquisitor’s gaze/Summon Soulkeeper feels really dumb. This node should be like… baby Dark Soul/KJC.

3 min Infernal will feel super bad, because as far as I can tell, there isn’t a single 3 min trinket from raid or M+.

I’m gonna miss soulshape really really really badly. A blink is arguably the one thing I want the most.

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