Destro PVP is awful in Dragonflight

Here is a link to my talents I setup for arena:

I’m not excited. At all. I can’t figure out how these are first draft of what is being put forth. It’s just bad. Unless CDF, Shadowburn, and incinerate have their damage massively buffed, our damage profile is incredibly similar and we’re still bolt bots. The only interaction here that moves us away from that is this incinerate buff hit.

Shadowburn and Conflag have a 50% chance to make the next spell a guaranteed crit and increase it’s damage by your crit %. Then Burn to Ashes increases incinerate damage by an additional 30%. Pair this with decimating bolt, and this is the only other burst we’ll have besides Chaos Bolt. I wonder if these buffs will be purgeable, I bet they will but who knows?

But that’s it. Jesus Christ INFERNAL is a god damn talent now man. Are you SERIOUS? I feel like we got pruned man. The entire first section of destruction is literally talents or conduits we have.

Then as we move down, more talents we have, with rolling havoc being a BFA azerite power. It’s literally just a pathway point dump to Backlash, where we get our first actual change to how destro is played. That and Conflagration of Chaos, are the only two things in this entire talent tree that change how we play destro. There’s NOTHING new besides that. So we get a poor man’s version of Owlkin Frenzy and this guaranteed crit. Then we get to the bottom row of talents and we get Ritual of Ruin but now is a 50% reduction in cast time and bumped up to spending 15 shards so we’ll use this very rarely since it’s not like we spend and gen a ton of shards in arena. The final middle talent sucks in PVP because we’ll still stack haste/verse I imagine. Maybe we’ll stack haste/mast in PVP and just get F@()$&ed into having to PVE unlike any other class.

God damn I’m so mad.

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Are you ignoring the class talent tree? You will be a god in pvp.

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yeah i knew the talent tree idea was going to be horrible, devs cant balance when its 3 selections you think they gonna care when they have to impliment a hundred for each class, i knew straight away they were just going to prune just like theyve done in previous years

What were you expecting Destro to be exactly?

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Still stack haste vers? You’re playing destro wrong. And your opinion is wild. The destro tree is entirely too GOOD to even be true. I’ve been sitting here in disbelief for 2 hours

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They already said incinerate is getting a huge buff, and there’s talents for the other two. This is funny I have to say, again, the destro tree is flawless and in fact I think so good it will not make it to live as is

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Apologies for triple response to thread. If PvP is your main content consumption then you definitely should be stacked crit/vers currently, haste or mast pieces you can’t get crit with. I only have 353 mastery and that provides 36% mast. The scaling is incredible. I will take that bottom talent 100% in my build.

When you made this thread, I don’t even think a single Lock on Alpha had done an arena.
Can you even do Arena on Alpha?

You’re absurd. Know your lane. Not trying to insult, but someone with 57% winrate at 1700 isn’t someone that should be making bald claims based purely on theory crafting. Have an opinion, make a thread, but you’ve presented everything as if it’s a fact.

PS I don’t even think PVP is a factor right now.

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Hey there kiddo. I know you think what you said makes you feel better about yourself, BUT where you didn’t use your brain is when you didn’t notice I was Elite and KSM last season so I believe I can speak on anything I’d like to. For the win rate and CR on my warlock currently, you again didn’t use your brain, the first week of the season is always the worst due to MMR mechanics. Another place you didn’t use your brain, theory or not it’s quite easy and obvious to see the Deatruction tree has the perfect balance for PvP and PVE in it.

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Laughing.

Literally what the thread started as.

If what I said is presented as fact, so is the original post.

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Chaos Incarnate alone is just too wild.

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It affecting Chaos Bolt, RoF, AND Shadowburn is insane. You can get crazy high Mast with very little mast value. The scaling potential is wild. Let’s not forget they gave us that fancy Power Overwhelming and WE KEPT AZJAQIR thank god

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Look at my set up, then come back to me, and try to convince me the tree isn’t flawless

I’m in total agreement with you.

Lock is looking exceptionally good in DF.

Here’s my Aff build

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That build is soolliidd I like it, I took up Deathbolt. That new Pact of The Nathrezim talent below is is disgustingly good and sounds like a lot of fun

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i agree nerf dh and give demo mega back

I was hoping to have grim sac be a thing, but having interrupt on the warlock itself is amazing

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WoW PvP has always been a joke and just needs to die. They don’t have the resources to do both PvE and PvP well so we end up with neither being good.

I’m sure all the 1337 kiddies can find some other unbalanced rock-paper-scissors game to roll under-geared n00bs in. Leave WoW to the PvE’ers and let Blizzard focus on it.

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Bro PVP isn’t that hard to balance they’re just lazy as hell and move like sloths.

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tfw people actually think blizz is a indie company and not one thats worth billions.

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