I can do 200K on training dummies, but when I get in a mythic it’s 70-80k overall, I’ve pugged to 20’s ,level 444, io 2650 using my keys, I can get in a raid and get good dps, the movement kills me, If I can stand still it’s good, if not is sucks, any advice?
play shadowpriest!
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Or Affy. It’s pretty chill if you don’t choose Siphon Life.
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Destro is one of the strongest specs in m+ outside of the meta classes. It falls below fire mage and a couple of other specs but Ive heard talks of being able to replace fire with destro because it scales well with haste.
I would look up a guide and make sure you’re following every step. 70-80k overall is quite bad even if you were the absolute worst spec in the game, which you aren’t.
Hi Wazzabi. I was checking you out on the armory and you seem to have alot of crit. I have also simmed your toon and a hectic add fight (I believe that accounts for AOE pulls) I have been following Wowhead and running mostly haste then mastery. Your sim works out to the same.
Also, I feel your pain. I run with guild tanks and I ask them to give me 3 seconds notice that they are kitting the mobs. In pugs it is what it is. If a tank pulls 2 trash packs together and keeps the still you will top the meters. If it is 1 trash pack with under 5 mobs…you may as well do a cleave rotation with chaos bolt.
yeah, I’m stuck with 34% crit, Haste is 30% and Mastery is 30%, I mainly did the cleave build till I started to get into 20’s, but the AOE does nothing in the mythics, but I can do 200,000 on dummies w/o having to move all over . I also use a mouse with buttons to attack, along with a couple keybinds/macros. I don’t know why it’s so hard, I get beat by 430’s.
If your dps is this bad you just have to get the basic aoe rotation down. Fortunately for destro its pretty easy. On this patch it looks like this:
- apply immolate to all targets that will live for a significant period of time.
- cast CDF
- rip infernal and trinkets
- spam rain of fire whenever possible
- use incinerate and conflag to generate shards when needed, cleaving on a 2nd target with havoc when possible.
Use this rotation any time 3 or more targets are stacked. Simcraft doesnt bother with chaos bolt cleaving on more than 2 targets with the current meta talent setup.
If you’re doing this rotation with good uptime and not overcapping on shards, its unlikely that people you significantly outgear will beat your damage. Once you have this down you can run more keys to get gear that will fix your stat prio and trinkets.
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a few immolates, confs and spam rain of fire.
with the new infernal talent, destro is doing really nice output.
spam those rofs
ROTATION IS PUTREFACT BRO!, u still mantain madness as u can but sometimes dont work, warlocks destro need a SUPER BIGPULLS for do something, is a terrible spect need a rework
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Welcome to playing Destro. When you play destro, you are a tower. If you plant, your dps skyrockets. If you move, it plummets. If your tank moves, it plummets.
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80k is not abnormal at all for destro if you don’t have PI and the tank doesn’t know how to play with destruction and you don’t know the route. It’s on the low side but it’s not that bad i’ve seen far worse. And stop saying destruction is a super strong spec it’s fine but it’s nothing to write home about. I’d say it’s B+ / A- at the very best depending on the week (not very good in sanguine week). i’m playing an alt mage atm and i’d say all 3 mages specs are better than destruction if you pug. If you pug and don’t know what the tank is doing i’d say affliction is a far more reliable spec to play.
80k overall is super abnormal LOL, i do keys +20 with a mage and he beat me for 70 or 50k overall i do 155k of overall and he pass 200k+ so, 80k is super and extreme LOW overall
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80k is less than the tank, dno what to tell you.
I’ve been in keys with destro locks doing 400k+ dps on every pull.
I’m not trying to blast tanks, but this could be a partial reason. Destro likes big pulls that don’t move. If your tank isn’t pulling enough or moving them out of your RoF your dps will just be crap. Destro also sucks at movement. If you move your dps will drop off a cliff. Really wish they would do something about it. But locks have complained for years and nothing yet.
You need to talk with the tank and make sure they are pulling stuff out of your aoe as less as possible. My friend is a tank and we run mythic+ in discord vc so its easier on my end.
I honestly have zero idea about mage because I know nothing about it and it is extremely unappealing imo but desto warlock has so much cc and fire storm spam if you are talented into it.
You make sure immolate is on EVERYTHING. Cleave when conflag is up for those extra shards. Spam rain of fire on groups 3 or higher, use chaos bolt on two or less. Mages clearly out dps me, but I’m usually seeing myself second best dps and its often right under them. I only have 8 as my highest key on this toon so don’t mind my advice if you don’t want to.
I give up, playing resto druid, maybe when they buff Warlock again.
Plain and simple; lower keys playing destro is pointless because the mobs die too fast to accumulate RoF’s.
Higher keys… If the tank is a spaz you simply can’t do consistent aoe. Your embers won’t generate fast enough and you’ll struggle to get any momentum. But… when coordinated properly with tons of haste, you are dropping craptons of RoF’s over and over with blasphemy’s being slapped down. You will quickly watch yourself soar up to the top of the meter and keep climbing.
I do agree Destro needs a facelift though. Half our talent tree is dead (shadowburn, soulfire). The class tree is just stat sticks. Make Cataclysm a more attainable talent because it makes sense we would be able to use it and not tab-immolate 4-5 targets.
Meanwhile Fire mage hotstreak derpa derpa flamestrike
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I wish cataclysm was baseline even if it was a long cooldown, it would help so much instead of single target spamming immolate on trash in keys
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Your Secondary stats are messed up and explains why you’re struggling.
Get rid of Crit and Vers off your crafted gear and replace it with Mastery and Haste. We don’t need Crit and Vers (Vers is the stat sought out by melee) Change your gems from Haste to Mastery, being around 28% o 30% Haste is fine.
Mastery for Destro increases your spell damage. For Demo Mastery increases your pets attack/dps.
on every pull?
what are you pulling half of the dungeon each time?
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