Destro Locks are ruining pvp currently

Hey everyone. PvP’er here. I just wanted to raise awareness with the rest of the community that destro warlocks have been sucking the fun out of any pvp (particularly competitive play, 2s and 3s) to the point where people would rather leave the game when facing a warlock than actually play. I know pvp is considered side content in this game like pet battles or whatever else but there still are people who hang onto this game and enjoy the arena aspect (wow pvp combat just hits a spot other games cannot seem to).

But if you head over to the arena forums right now youll see that pretty much every other thread is a thread complaining about warlocks. Now there are always complaint threads there about pretty much anything, warlock threads seem to be the only ones right now and are posted a rate much higher than ive ever seen.

Probably because the corruption vendor has made things so much worse. Warlocks were able to purchase expedient 3 the first day the vendor came out and many of them have .5 second bolt casts. Even when they don’t stack massive amounts of expedient, every other stat affects the damage of chaos bolt in some way, resulting in 300k+ damage, fast casted bolts in an arena match.

Besides bolt, the amount of control the class has is insane.

Spammable 8s CC you pretty much can’t kick cause you have to kick bolts.
x2 Coil
Roots
Infernal Stun
Shadowfury
Reflect
Pet kick that can be cast while in CC

Incredibly tanky, insane burst damage. Undispelable offensive cds.

Its depressing to play into this right now. I’ve faced countless x2 destro teams and I’m getting to the point where I just want to leave the game cause its not fun trying to kill them or their healer.

Here are the community agreed upon strats when facing destro lock in 2s/3s.
2s: either leave the game or not even joking, hide around the pillar doing nothing until extremely high dampening and then praying the warlock makes a mistake and you gib him somehow. Reminder, Warlock can kill you much faster in dampening than you can kill them, due to their fast hard hitting bolts, infernal stun, conflag root, mortal coil, etc.
3s: Tunnel the warlock the entire time and lock him down. Although this strategy might not always work because they typically play with a fire mage or another destro lock. Locking down a lock leaves a fire mage free to blast gpies, etc. There are only so many kicks you can throw out between the spammable cc and damage. So basically, leave the game.

The amount of lock rerolls is pretty insane. I can’t go 2 games without seeing a destro who just stands in the open and either kills you with speedy bolts while you’re sitting coil+fear+infernal+root or the game drags to deep dampening where you can maybe land a kill.

Soul leech talent (demon skin) needs to get nerf bombed.
Root should require immolate again.
Maybe kicking fear should lock out chaos? Not sure.

If you take a look at ~https://www.arenamate.net/representation-charts youll see a huge increase in destro warlock representation and as of right now they are the most represented DPS spec in both 2v2 and 3v3. The only things higher than them are hpaladins in 2s and MW monk in 3s.

The AWC has been ruined by destro lock/fire mage teams and their extremely boring, dampen heavy games.

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man it’s been ruined

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yes but with the changes to Ineffable truth for paladins Fist of justice and changes to spite they are obviously paying some sort of attention to pvp. I just don’t understand why, at this point, they are blatantly ignoring an extremely broken class that is causing people to literally leave games instead of playing against them.

I suspect that they don’t think it’d be fair because the warlocks were already able to climb rating with the brokenness and if they nerf it those warlocks will jsut sit on their rating.

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well if you cant beat em, join em. Time to start gearing my warlock

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Locks have been the go to garbage player class since vanilla. Broken ever single expansion and every single season in PvP.

If you’re insecure and want to win just roll lock.

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There is only one path to true power. Join us OP.

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Says the rogue.

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Destro have been garbage for awhile. They will continue to be garbage into shadowlands.

Maybe complain about the real problem instead? Like corruption being allowed in pvp.

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I mean, rogue was probably the highest skillcap class in PvP for most of the games history. BFA has made it completely faceroll, but sub rogue used to be very demanding and had amazing potential for skilled players.

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Chillpills from Stormrage is that you posting on your alt complaining about Destro locks again?

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Imagine the rogues that have being one of the most broken classes in BFA complaining about warlocks…lol…you are a joke dude.

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I had 5 merc’d destro locks in my last IoC game. They all were geared to the teeth and stacked with exp corruption. Those poor innocent souls they slaughtered. It’s randoms but still funny to watch.

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Says the rogue.

Rogues in BFA are a training wheel class. To be fair every class in BFA is a toddler class.

At least throughout the earlier expansions you could tell the difference between a bad and good rogue. I didn’t even play a rogue in wrath and anyone who did play wrath can tell you how skill capped rogue was.

Lock, on the other hand, has always been the biggest no skill brain dead caster since launch. I can’t tell the difference between a rank 1 warlock and 1400 jimmy learning how to keybind for the first time.

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A caster can hold their own against the never ending melee train!?

Say it aint so!

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Nice deflection. “Rogue is awesome, but use to be hard”.

Nice deflection. “Rogue is awesome, but use to be hard”.

Never did I say rogue was awesome. I agreed rogue is also broken a majority of the time the difference being that rogue actually takes two hands to play.

But please skip over my point again and tell me in your mighty “step into the arena” achievement wisdom more about PvP.

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Wait, what? A caster that has the tools to compete with the perma-slow, insta-kick, inescapable melee pain-train? :scream:

UNACCEPTABLE.

(L2P)

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You mean you don’t enjoy .5 second cast time Chaos Bolts that hit for 140k?

Lol okay casual

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Better double that bro

Wait, what? A caster that has the tools to compete with the perma-slow, insta-kick, inescapable melee pain-train? :scream:UNACCEPTABLE.
(L2P)

Yeah… no.

Just because melee is insane and completely over tuned is no excuse for locks to be how insane they are. Obviously melee shouldn’t have ranged stuns or kicks or slows but the fact that they DO and a warlock can still out perform them really should tell you something.

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