If you get kicked in lfg you get a 30 MINUTES! penalty to join another party, its just stupid, if you leave, ok get the penal, but being kicked shouldnt give you a penalty there’s plenty of VERY NICE people playing world of warcraft and it doesn’t take much to get a 3 vote to kick you.
What did you do to get kicked?
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Here are a few reasons why kicked players MUST have a penalty:
- Player doesn’t like the dungeon that they got randomed into. They repeatedly wipe or just flat out AFK until kicked so that they could requeue into another dungeon without penalty.
- Player doesn’t like the group for some reason - maybe the group has too many other players who can compete for loot they want. Instead of leaving and taking the penalty, they hold the group hostage until they get kicked so they don’t get a penalty.
- Player is a bot and habitually AFKs until they are kicked. They still get XP for awhile, so it is pretty easy to automate. Not exactly the more efficient way to level, but very easy to do it.
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So instead you get the toxic trolls who kick people for no other reason than
- They don’t like the spec you’re using.
- They don’t want to share loot with you.
- You’re not living up to their personal expectations.
So what this change did is empower the elitist jerks and punish regular players. From your examples…I can’t really remember that happened back in the day. Definitely not during Wrath dungeons. Cata dungeons were harder, so people were more toxic. And of course Cata Classic added idiotic Mythics and people are insanely toxic. That’s the real problem.
You are leaving out the fact that it takes 3 people in the party to agree to those things. It only takes 1 person throwing a little baby temper tantrum because they don’t like the dungeon to abuse a non-penalty kick system.
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True. I can’t say I ever encountered anyone throwing a tantrum. It’s a waste of time. It’s much more efficient just to bang out the dungeon. Well…with the original dungeons. Not these abominations they’ve put into Classic.
You must not have been around in wotlk… oculus had an extreme amount of whiners leaving / afk’ing whenever it popped.
it didn’t use to.
But we abused that.
So now it’s like this.
There’s a sure-fire way to fix this… Have friends.
It seems a lot of these problems people have with RDF and such, and deserter 100% leads back to “I don’t have any friends”. Even if you only had 1, that’s still a better chance of not getting kicked, but instead of trying to make friends and do things with people you know, you all take to the forums with pitchforks. You could also realize this part
Get some friends… in an MMO…
Was kicked from a group after someone asked if i was going to roll on the Chaos Orb, this was beginning of instance
It’s fine, the game can’t tell why you were kicked and as such you’re treated like everyone else who’d be kicked.
cata classic does not have “mythics” it has Heroic + which are not even the same as mythics.
'Mythic dungeons have more health and more mechanics.
deffinitly a valid reason to kick someone for being low damage. being a hard carry,being bad, if your not doing 15k+ on a boss fight in a H+ dungeon your gone. 15k is easily doable.
Players who are hard carries are toxic players who set standards are not toxic
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changed to what exactly? Did you try to come up with a solution that works and isnt exploitable by trolls and griefers?
they are right deserting should be 30 mins if your kicked then it should be an hour!!!
Well first they should really make it so that PvP gear doesnt have an ilvl so that people are not able to goi buy BoE blue pvp loot and get into infernos and do 
damage and then wonder why they are kicked!!!
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I was kicked from a dungeon because my feral dps was only at 10k after a hard wipe. I was offhealing, dispelling the healer, providing interrupts and stuns in a Rune Protocol. Sorry feral druid aoe isn’t good on 3 mobs? I do fairly great on single target (19-20k) and we didn’t even make it to the first boss because the first 2 trash pulls nearly wiped us and the third one did.
I’m really glad people can just simply kick without mentioning it to anyone or asking “hey what’s up can you do better.” Nope just kick and screw the person who got kicked for 30 minutes.
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I mean, it does come up with a notification to 3 other people…
X wants to kick X
reason: no zug zug
Yes/No
You or anyone else getting kicked was them agreeing that it’s better off that they’re not in the group. It’s working as intended and it doesn’t need to be changed.
if your only doing 10k AoE your doing something wrong.
Plus you should NOT be off healing or dispelling as a feral this forces you out of form. your not a boomy or restro druid your a feral you should rarely jump out of form. even for Bres (leave that for the DK,or other non feral druids)
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Sure, it gives notification to 3 other players and not the person being kicked. However when no communication is given in chat about strategies, asking why the person isn’t doing well, or paying attention to why the group is struggling?
10k aoe on 3 mobs during a 45 second fight (AFTER A WIPE, me being the 2nd one dead after the tank) where I’m spending most of it in bear form attempting to survive because my healer has a 50% haste debuff curse. Shift out of form to decurse, go back into cat form, immediately melted by the unkicked fireballs.
I stay in form to kick the fireball, it casts fireball again in 2 seconds and the entire group dies because I didn’t decurse.
You obviously aren’t a team player and it shows by your very “holier than thou” attitude on forums. Not to mention, if you ACTUALLY play feral then you know that feral dps tanks very quickly on long fights vs multiple mobs due to #1 swapping targets dropping combo points, #2 lack of energy regen, #3 having to bear weave to be even mediocre vs 5+ mobs.
because the content is 15 years old and the strats are known!!!
Go check my logs i play feral!!!
LoL AoE rotation is straightforward; checking out Wowhead might be beneficial. Exiting form to decurse isn’t wise; only priests and paladins can’t decurse themselves. However, most groups include mages, non-feral druids, and shamans, all capable of decursing and interrupting. A fireball cast shouldn’t wipe your group. It seems like you’re fabricating excuses for poor performance and the subsequent kick.
I am more likely to kick someone for not following mechanics, running ahead, or not interrupting than I am for low DPS.
If I can have someone who’s DPS is a bit lower but they follow mechanics and kick abilities, I would rather have that person than a 18k dps who stands in fire and doesn’t kick spell casts.