Why do they now treat you as a deserter and punish you when they remove you from a dungeon? this MUST BE FIXED , it is unfair we have to wait for 30 min just because some a.h. wants to rush everything and pulls all the mobs and their mother you tell them to chill and take it easy and they kick you , YOU didnt chose to leave you where kicked by a bunch of wakkos so why do you have to be punished? it happens no matter what role you play
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It was fixed back in legion, but the other way around. In the old days you didn’t get the debuff for being kicked. There was a pretty widespread abuse of that with players selling short queues and then forcing the group to vote kick them (to avoid the debuff for leaving) or they would just sit there.
It’s not broken, it’s worked this way since about 1 month after the dungeon finder was implemented in WOTLK.
And the reason why is because people who wanted to desert would just AFK until you kicked them to avoid the debuff.
If you don’t want to get kicked, stop trying to tell other people how to play the game.
Blizzard should punish the bad actors, now new players or new tanks/healers are catching strays. Blizzard has ended up punishing the good guys more than the bad. They need to revert this.
I have been running Classic Timewalking a LOT to level alts. People are getting kicked left and right for silly things. Completely wastes their time and I’m sure sours their mood tremendously. This is by far the worst community in any MMO.
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I’ve done over 30 timewalking dungeons across several characters this week and haven’t seen anybody get kicked yet.
These people complaining about getting kicked for “silly things” need to remember that the rest of the group aren’t there to learn the game. They are there to complete their quest ASAP and get out. If you waste their time, you will get kicked and there is no reason that should change.
Tanks set the pace of a dungeon. If you want to set the pace, play a tank.
If you try tanking these levelling dungeons and pull 1 pack at a time you’ll also get kicked.
Do you have any idea just how widespread this was?
Getting Oculus in your Dungeon Finder queue back in Wrath was a death sentence 75% of the time because your tank or healer would intentionally AFK until you voted to kick them to bypass Deserter.
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If it was widespread, then that’s on Blizzard for not enforcing punishments appropriately. It’s not good punishing new players because “they aren’t fast enough” pulling a dungeon for some basement dweller who has spent 75% of his life chronically on WoW.
The debuff needs to be removed or there needs to be stricter limitations on when a vote kick can be initiated. Or you can just simply punish people who abuse game systems on purpose rather than an innocent player.
< insert contrary mary who wants to argue post here > “i haven’t seen this so it doesnt exist…”
THis means you’re tanking and you’re probably pulling the dungeons super fast and if someone is new or doesn’t want to play that way…they are basically outvoted and just have to suffer.
As a main tank who HAS pulled this way, I have certainly had zero issues slowing down if it’s bugging someone or they get lost. I’m not a jerk. It costs zero dollars to not be a jerk.
People who get kicked should NOT get the deserter debuff. The ones who dont want to do the dungeon and go afk should just get kicked…whatever, who cares.
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And that should not be the case. If you can’t be patient enough for new players, make a full group on your own to achieve the goals and speed in which you want to do it. You shouldn’t be ruining another players experience over speed. Period.
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