Denathrius and the Legion

So I heard somewhere according to lore that the Dreadlords have seized control of most of what remains of the Burning Legion. The reason I mention this is because the whereabouts of Detharius are still unknown.

Now were he to seize control of the Legion well that would be a scary thought. Sargeras may have been powerful but in the end he was a glorified brute and a predicable one at that as his motives centered around his Burning Crusade.

Denathrius on the other hand, while he may not be as powerful as a fighter he is cunning manipulative and knows how to play the long game, and having him at the helm of the Legion would be a scary thing for Azeroth and any other planet that has not been corrupted yet.

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There’s no solid information about what’s going on with the Legion.

I don’t see this as a concern, really. Demons are not naturally inclined towards working together with a common goal. Sargeras was able to force them to do so by becoming essentially the god of chaos. Denathrius was the first raid boss of his expansion.

I cannot imagine a world where he manages to slip into Sargeras’s shoes - they’re just a few dozen sizes too big.

Denathrius is a cool villain, and I hope to see him again, but “general of the galaxy-conquering demon army” is not the role for him.

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While Denatrius is not as strong as Sargeras but he has cunning. He may not be able to use brute force to get the Legion to work together but he is could manipulate them into uniting. And who said he was going to conquer the Galaxy knowing Denathrius he will definitely play a more subtle game only releasing the full might of his forces when it is most opportune to do so. May I remind you when we show up at Revendreath Denathrius made it look like he was the hero and the rebels were the bad guys.

TLDR while He may not fit into the Shoes of Sargeras I am pretty sure he owns a pair of the same brand of shoes that are his size and he may be to the Legion what Allan Mulally was to Forc.

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Denathrius wants the same thing Zovaal wants and since the 6 First Ones are Light, Shadow, Order, Disorder, Life and Death according to the Chronicle it would seem they are the Zereths and thus he plans to unite the Zereths against the 7th which the Zereths seem to deny.

Denathrius has Dominion as one of his Weapons just as Zovaal had the Primus’s Domination as his Weapon and both have basically the same effect.

He with the sufficient amount of fuel can enslave all the Zereths using his Aspect of Dominion so that they may fight against the 7th that the First Ones deny.

There are many Candidates for the 7th: Azeroth, the Medallion of Dominion, the Sha of Pride, Fyrakk(the 7th Major Player in the fight over Amirdrassil) and Amirdrassil(the 7th World Tree separate from the G’Hanir World Tree Family)


If that is the case then taking control of the Legion would likely give Denathriuys what he needs to fight against the 7th.

He needs a Zereth and a huge stockpile of Souls gathered by the Legion Soulforges to power it enough to unleash Dominion upon every First One to unite them and the Cosmos under his will.

The Nathrezim have their own Vessels filled with Souls(some being the entire contents of Argus’s Soulforges in the chaos of Sargeras’s defeat) so now they need their associates to agree to plug the Vessels into whichever Zereth Denathrius chooses whether it be Zereth Tumult or Zereth Mortis(for there is no way the Nathrezim didn’t sneak a backdoor into Zereth Mortis so that Denathrius could get his Fleet inside).

The one thing I find curious about Denathrius is he let Renathal exist far too long, and far too often.

Meanwhile, for all of Renathal’s efforts, Denathrius is still out there - one might argue quite possibly more dangerous, now that he has been unmasked.

I don’t even think “the Legion” is all we need to worry about - the Dreadlords have infiltrated the cosmic forces. He might have an “order 66” lined up, Palpatine style, across the cosmos, before we even know he was behind it.

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Ah yes Dreadlords have been running the Scarlet Crusade for most of it’s existence and well isn’t there a “Lightforged” Dreadlord working for the Army of the Light 
someone needs to be looking into him to see if he is not funneling info to his real boss.

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There is a lot of potential for Sire D and his Dreadlords for sure! As well as many unanswered questions of their experiments and dealings in the whole WoW Multi-verse that we barely scratch the service in SLs.

WoW is literally running short on OG lore and Characters for content and need to really start to set up and develop new ones
 if this MMO is going strong for the next 10 to 20 years.
New characters like Sire D among other old NPC Characters that have always been there but unused or are seriously underdeveloped taking in the time they been in game or in the lore, need to start being developed and use, and I’m not talking about just potential Raid Bosses, they need to start thinking who they keep around to move potential story bits forward. (Wink, Wink Chormatus been a potential cool NPC waiting to make its devue and can be both a potential interesting character and a Boss safely since the lore states his body can’t be destroy by any magic at that time and had to seal them in a hinden secrete Arcane Prison! Don’t judge me I’m bias ok, not trying to hide it! :rofl:)

Same goes for Horde and Alliance NPC characters we need new ones, new lore
 new developments, specially on the Alliance side it’s too stale, the Crimson Dawn was a tiny start but they need more IMO especially now that they have Void, Light, Undead and Demonic Races among their number now

Horde just needs literally more development since they got basically new NPCs leading them in this weird council mode.

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This is what I like about Dentharius. He has a soft spot for the first Venthyr he created, or sired. Renathal is a son to him and even the Dreadlords knew that hurting him would upset their master.

It honestly makes me wonder what will be the breaking point.

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I just hope they dial back the 7D checkers/everything is connected angle they’ve employed on Shadowlands characters. It not only feels hamfisted but really hampers the agency and villainy of characters and factions like the Legion.

So maybe in a way I do not want Sire Denathrius to be affiliated too much, if at all with the Legion going forward.

The best case scenario would be - Sire D created the nathrezim and sent them to infiltrate the cosmos. Over time, these agents became autonomous and began doing their own thing. So while there might have been a directive once, it’s been long enough that the bond is tenuous.

I’m under the same line of thinking. For example those that were part of the Legion, or most anyway ended up defecting to the Legion. While others, like Mal’ganis returned back to their original masters command following the Legions defeat. Hell you could make it so that Mal’ganis abandoned the Legion outright after they did nothing to avenge his ‘death’ at the hands of Arthas and Ner’zhul (which again reminds me of how Blizzard wanted to paint it was “all part of the masters plan” for Mal’ganis to be stabbed in the back" via the dialogue box on the shield drop from the Dreadlord encounter in SotFO’s).

I just don’t want Lothraxion to be a secret double agent. Actually make it so that he serenely defected to the Army of the Light.

We need to know what’s going on with Lothraxion.

On one hand, this. On the other hand, hard to imagine Lothraxion could’ve fooled Xe’ra given that she could read minds like a book and was around him constantly plus was a Light hardliner.

Hasn’t the legion been shattered so multiple Petty warlords are trying to dominate other remnants?

It essentially sounds like it’s a bunch of war bands with whatever demon being the strongest leading them.

That’s basically Eredar(strongest is Archimonde since he died in the Cutscene on Draenor), Doomguard(Kazzak is the strongest) and Pit Lords(strongest is Mannoroth who fears Archimonde) fighting over Warbands.

The Nathrezim-led Warbands would naturally all serve Denathrius so it is basically Archimonde vs Denathrius.

Given the massive size of the Legion, even a particularly large warband would still be trouble for Azeroth.

I think it would be interesting if a bunch of dreadlords also ended up striking out on there own now that the whole plan they were created for has gone to hell. Bring back Varimathras, but have him go after other dreadlord because they all just sat back and let him be tortured by demons for thousands of years.

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Most of which are being run by Dreadlords.

Isn’t Arechimonde dead 
I think in WoD we killed him in the Nethert so he is dead dead.

Archimonde died in the Cinematic on Draenor even after we beat him in the Nether on Mystic.

Blizzard’s official statement is that he is available to use if they decide to.

The official stance is that he is dead for now. As the mythic ending (i.e. Archimonde dying in the nether) was intended to be the actual ending. However due to the miscommunication between the encounter & story devs and the cinematic devs, Archimonde ended up dying on AU Draenor. Therefore Blizzard has stated that they can simply de-canonize the mythic ending if they want to bring him back.

I think it was also stated that powerful demons take much longer to return, especially now that they don’t have Argus(the titan, not the planet) to speed things up.

So, in theory, Arechimonde should be gone for a long time. But also time moves differently on Argus, so who knows.