Will there be a possibility of DH class opening up to other race beside Blood/Night Elves?
I want to be a TROLL DH, I think that would be sick af !
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I hope not.
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There are already topics on this.
To sum up: Lots of players want more races available for DH. Some donât, but their arguments boil down to âother people play the game wrong.â Shadowlands does not have more races available for DH at this time, and itâs not likely to happen until at least the expansion after SL.
Lore reasons yo. Wow still tries to be an RPG every once in a while. Keep them elves qq 2ur troll troll request.
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If you were ever unsure what the term âstraw man argumentâ means and would like an example, look no further!
Troll Dh would admittedly be more reasonable than some other requests, but still I think orcs would be the most likely race. Them and nightbourne
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I think itâs funny that a known forum troll is against DH having trolls as a playable race. Begone, pest.
Part of the challenge is the rigging of skeletons for double jump and other DH specific movements.
Iâd love to see VE and NB DH
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With the amount of Customization Blizzard would have to add to any new race they gave the Demon Hunter class I seriously doubt weâll ever see anyone besides Blood/Night Elves being able to be them.
I keep seeing people mention orcs but itâs already been shown in the Blood Furnace dungeon that they would be incapable of handling that level of fel magic. Shoot, they canât even handle basic fel taint without trying to conquer all of azeroth.
Demoniacs actually make a lot of sense though. In fact Iâd argue itâs likely that the demon hunter ritual if not directly derived from the demoniac ritual shares a lot in common with it due to elvesâ troll ancestry. Plus Zandalari are already in the game so demoniacs could easily be to the (zandalari) trolls what the illidari are to the night and blood elves.
Getting a massive amount of demon blood injected into you by people seeking to dominate you isnât the same as going through a ritual guided by people who are trying to help you.
Not a remotely viable argument
Orcs make far more sense than trolls, but Trolls arenât at the bottom of my list
Itâs not an argument itâs how the lore has been depicted to us.
What youâre suggesting is the equivalent of saying if a human teaches a gorilla English it can speak. Sure the gorilla is smart enough to understand and comprehend human language but they physiologically lack the necessary traits to vocalize like a human does. Thatâs why we have to use sign language with them.
Orcs are smart enough to understand and comprehend fel magic (English) but they lack the necessary physiological traits to speak it (demoniac/DH ritual) so they must access it through other means by using Warlock methods (sign language).
Trolls on the other hand have already canonically demonstrated the ability to successfully use demon hunterâesque rituals to empower themselves. That means trolls are a far less lore-breaking option than orcs and quite frankly it would give trolls some much needed spotlight as theyâre always pushed to the side so the story can fawn over orcs and zombies for the umpteenth time.
Your analogy is busy and not applicable, so iâm going to ignore it.
To-date, sure, orcs have used warlock magics. That said:
- The legion has harmed them, arguably, more than any other horde race.
- As youâve said, theyâve displayed the means to utilize fel/shadow magics.
- Warlock magics are fel magics. They may manifest differently, but warlock magics do have rituals. Not to mention, orcs have also engaged in shamanistic rituals. Not like they arenât pretty well-versed in ritualism.
If youâre speaking about rituals like with Hakkar, sure, they used them. But they relied on Hakkarâs power, not their own.
Prior to becoming demon hunters, itâs not like elves really had any history of performing demonic rituals as we saw. A race having not done it before doesnât at all exclude it from being able to.
Iâm not sure what youâre trying to achieve here. Youâre simply ignoring all the ways Iâve already refuted your arguments because you donât want to address them. If you canât understand a very simple and direct analogy which I went through the trouble of breaking down for you I donât know exactly what your goal is beyond just trying to shout over me?
Take 5 min, google âwow demoniacsâ. Theyâre not a fringe esoteric thing. They are a definitive part of the lore begging for use.
You havenât refuted my argument. Youâve compared orcs to gorillas, incapable of speaking human language.
your basis for this is that orcs havenât participated in demonic rituals. Neither had elves before becoming demon hunters. Itâs not a viable argument.
You know what Iâm repeating myself at this point. If you canât be bothered to understand my arguments or even the simple concept of an analogy Iâm not going to be bothered to continue this conversation.
I understand the analogy. Iâm telling you itâs unnecessary and isnât applicable. If you arenât willing to understand why your analogy has no relevance, Iâm not going to be bothered to continue this conversation.
So I think it boils down to Lore, representation, and cost of implementing.
Lore-wise demon hunters are people who suffered, or watched those around them suffer, from demonic invasions and had this give them deep enough mental and physical scars that they devoted their entire existence to gaining revenge against the Burning Legion.
It takes a LOT to do that, especially to deeply affect enough of the population to think a substantial minority of it would choose this path. Off the top of my head I think the Orcs, Highmountain Tauren, Mag-Har Orcs, Nightborne and blood elves are the only Horde races that really have a compelling argument for this. (I donât play alliance but Iâm sure they have a few, I just donât feel 100% on the lore to comment on it. /shrug).
Of them, I donât think the Mag-Har would willingly corrupt themselves. The Highmountain Tauren wouldnât appreciate the speedy-jumpy-acrobatic style of the DH even if you could make the argument that they would be capable of it. That leaves us with the Orcs and Nightborne⊠And I canât really think of a reason they wouldnât hop on the DH bus.
Representation-wise I think thereâs enough Demon Hunters out there. I donât have the numbers in front of me, but I think Havok is currently over-represented in the game. I certainly see them everywhere, and adding fun new options might only exacerbate an overabundance of melee DPS.
Cost-wise Blizzard would need to revamp the starting area of the DHs because Orcs and Nightborne (and whatever alliance races make it) simply werent there with Illidan for BC. There would have to be new animations for the non-elf races, new voices, and there would need to be an expected reward for them financially to offset the cost. You could make the argument that there is race-change money on the line, but Belf and Nelf are two of the most commonly played races in the game. I donât really see Belfs race changing for the Nightborne slow (but maybe for Orc stun resist?), or Nelfs swapping out Shadowmeld for, well⊠anything.
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