You spelled “Warrior” wrong
Good take. Take my like!
DH is only low representation bc of tuning. The core annoyances for other players are still there (mobility, CC, immunity frames)
DH just doesn’t do high enough consistent damage to be competitive currently, because the burst is does have isn’t one shot levels. In modern WoW you either need to do threatening damage all game (pre-nerf Unholy, Aff locks, Devokers) or have giga burst on your CDs (Ele, Sub Rogue, WW) to fit well.
DH has neither currently. Its burst / consistent dmg isn’t “bad” per se, but neither is high enough to give it kill pressure without heavy dampening like better performing specs.
Id say shamans / resto druids probably have the most keybinds all those different totems and abilities
Nope.
Yes. Needs sustained damage buff 100%. Atm you can have full uptime and not meaningfully move healthbars.
Not really a fair comparison since it has fly and glimpse to avoid cc and has reverse magic and immo aura dispel (only 1 debuff now thank god) that can get roots in certain MUs.
Reverse magic?? That’s just a really good button and shouldn’t be treated like it’s a bad thing.
I don’t even know where to start with this, but no, not even close.
Shaman is absolutely harder than dh and it isn’t close.
They’re almost entirely the same, they just have one additional “mechanic” from their hero tree…
100% agree with this.
All classes are pretty similar in terms of rotation.
This, basically. I do think the burst is actually fine, but the sustained damage is extremely lacking.
We can say that DH is bad and needs a damage buff, but literally only a damage buff and the class is fine.
I must be taking crazy pills because I’ve ran into a few DH’s recently that did insane damage and were extremely hard to kill. I’m not the best at this game but I’ve been playing it long enough to trust my judgement when it comes to my experiences with classes in PvP and I am at a loss as to why DH is considered to be bad right now. Maybe it’s just their bread and butter comp Boomy/DH isn’t great at the moment due to reasons other than DH “sucking”? Maybe it’s Rogues being OP and oppressing them? I am not sure as I haven’t thought a lot about it but I find it hard to believe DH’s need major buffs from what I have seen.
completely false series of statements that arent even worth dialogue, view all pvp metrics and watch dh gameplay, return to roleplaying that its a 3 button class cya
Don’t let all these warrior mains gaslight you, brother, DH needs buffs now and massive ones.
Oh, so you disagree with me saying:
And things like:
And also:
but the sustained damage is extremely lacking.
We can say that DH is bad and needs a damage buff
Man, do you even read??
view all pvp metrics and watch dh gameplay
I’ve been saying dh and dk are the worst specs and need buffs for like 2 months now, wdym?
I’m also higher xp than you on DH?!
return to roleplaying that its a 3 button class cya
I literally never said that. I just said that it’s NOT the most rotationally complex class and that all melee are similar.
It’s insane how people can agree with you and you say their comments are false?!
I’ve ran into a few DH’s recently that did insane damage and were extremely hard to kill.
A well played DH can be hard to kill for comps that cant lock it down and burst, but they fall over quite easily in stun setups.
As for damage, they always look good on meters and that’s where most people derive “their dmg is fine” from. In practice though, a majority of DH damage is meaningless cleave when they are high on the meter.
You have to remember there’s tons of pets running around now, so a class like DH that has aoe baked into its entire rotation looks like its absolutely cranking on the meter. They aren’t actually moving HP bars outside of CDs or deep dampening though.
If you see a DH doing 700-800k+ dps all game and think “wow, this guys killing everyone!” he’s not. The guy he wants to die is only taking half of that, and with 7mil+ HP pools, 350k dps isn’t killing anyone when healing is involved
All my xp on dh for the acc you are viewing is from this expac. which i have 2300 shuffle exp on, and 2 other dhs over 2150, so no, you arent, also no, i didn’t read everything you said, lmao, but yes it needs buffs, no its not as easy at it used to be, and within the context of a game that has ret and fury in the same category being easy shouldn’t even be a valid discourse for it being bad. Like I said, it isn’t even worth arguing with people who yap like this, you tell them DH is bad, they say it’s easy, you show them it’s harder than easier/better specs, they say it was good in dragonflight so it deserves to be bad, you tell them specs have been good the entirety of the game, and they say the class is easy, it is a circular argument.
Dh needs buffs, anything else is a waste of time debating, view metrics
Shuffle, 3v3, 2v2, DH is a bottom performer, the game isn’t balanced around blitz, blitz isn’t even pvp half the time, people hit 2800 in that game mode that dont even know how to interrupt, it’s cyclone/sap into cap, or run around with a flag
also no, i didn’t read everything you said, lmao, but yes it needs buffs
So if we agree on that and you say:
completely false series of statements that arent even worth dialogue
Why would you expect anyone to listen to a word you said?
I literally agreed with your premis and you said,
it isn’t even worth arguing with people who yap like this
I agree that DH needs buffs and is weak, but if you’re trying to represent the DH community in asking for buffs, you’re doing far more harm than good because all you’re doing is discrediting yourself.
Brother I am not trying to represent anyone, I am pointing out a fact, that DH is an f tier class, with no viable alternate spec for high level pvp. The rest doesn’t matter.
Ah man, Brox’s biceps shrunk and he went from a whiney warrior into a whiney DH. GG.
Maybe it’s just their bread and butter comp Boomy/DH isn’t great at the moment
Do people even play 3’s anymore?
Well keep in mind with aldrachi its like almost 60% increased damage and people can still live through. They do damage, but outside of eye beam its not much at all. Having that big of an increase and still not landing the kill feels bad at times