I really like the idea of us becoming the tyrant. And it really scratches the community’s itch for meta.
Would be pretty rad as a talent option, maybe in place of Sacrificed Souls.
i have no need for meta myself; but allowing the talent choice to be the DT would be good for play style variety.
Literally just rework Sacrificed Souls to turn us into Meta for the tyrant duration.
Yeap, a lot of players asked for something like that. Gul’dan in his fight become a kind of demonform based on tyrant, no?
I’d love a talent like this in the place of Sacrificed Souls. And… i don’t know, while in demonform you can spam instant Demonbolts and hand of guldan change for old Chaos Wave that gives damage based on Soul shards spended. Could be an aoe burst talent
Meta was cool and all, but frankly the melee thing just didn’t gel for me. If we’re playing “boy it’d be nice…”, I’d rather have the ability to “tame” my own demons and have a demon stable, along with better pet AI or controls and something less than a draconic 6 second cast time. Or, if these backward devs insist on a 6 second cast time, something better than Health Funnel to keep em up.
please pick another talent slot for the meta option (i am a sac souls guy).
They really should have a “possession” ability too, similar to mind control, but offer something different from a flavor perspective.
True story. No reason why they can’t make this happen, unless the next hero class rips this idea away from us as well…
That’s too complicated and unfun according to blizzard Headquarters
I actually agree with this, a simple implementation that is easy for blizz, and still gives Demo locks the choice of play style. Loads of fun
As a DH I don’t think they ripped it from you because DH would be jealous. But its a fact that Warlock meta had more depth then DH current meta which is just a new skin that buff the numbers on a few of our skills.
And if they had taken warlock meta for DH without the summoning demons aspect, rather than covering their eyes and ears and shouting “well what else would work? you can’t heal with DH!” the game would have been better for it.
As it is there was no reason to rip Meta from us to make room for DH, if they weren’t going to use that room. And warlock has suffered for it since 6.2…
Demo is fine as is in terms of playstyle. It has an identity. If you go into this territory of turning into a demon then you’re just a demon hunter’s sloppy seconds. I think the community should let go of metamorphasis and come up with more ideas that would make the spec identity more prevelant.
It should be simply like guldan when he went infused with demonic energy in nighthold phase 3. I think becoming the demonic tyrant would be much, much cooler than just summoning some dude. It would buff your demonbolt damage too or something.
Won’t happen though. Despite that vision of the spec making zero sense enough people cling desperately to it’s afterimage that we will not see the end of these “bring meta back” threads until WoW ends.
I disagree. The strongest warlocks can infuse themselves with fel energy and take on partial demon forms. Why do you think so many of our armor sets look like demons? We literally control demons – it makes sense.
Here’s a concept… Demonic Possession. The caster allows a powerful demon to overtake their body for a short time, empowering our base abilities (or adding a few new ones). It could work a lot like a shadow priests void eruption, where it causes a burst of damage, but then changes a few spell mechanics. Really cool design.
Been chewing on this since I read it, and the more I think about it the more I like it!
Would be perfect, never gonna happen tho.
I really don’t understand the inability to see that the original implementation of meta form for Warlocks was not well planned or thought out. Warlocks do not BECOME demons unless they lose control, at which point they give up their dominance over the demon that is literally the one thing protecting their mortal form from getting ripped apart by said demonic entity.
You don’t just “Let the demon control you temporarily.” Once you cede control, that’s it. It’s gone. Saying you can give control over your body to an entity vastly more powerful than yourself but only for a certain amount of time until he has to give it back to you “scouts honor” is like saying a drunk can dictate to a case of tequila how long it is allowed to intoxicate them for.
Warlocks control demons, they don’t become them. Demonology is the study of demons, as such…you should be mastering the art of controlling demons that are more powerful than the warlocks of other specs (Destro and Aff) can control. Perhaps Pit Lords, Eredar, or Nathrezim/Dread Lords even. Your demons should have powerful attacks and abilities that assist you with your goals.
Becoming a demon should have never been something a warlock could do. Even if you take out the demon hunter class entirely, meta should have never been a warlock trait.
And if we are getting into Demon Hunters and Meta…it is something that is tethered to that class, because unlike warlocks, a Demon Hunter is all about losing control and letting demonic power flow through your veins so that you can destroy what you hate by becoming what you hate.
EDIT: I noticed that this is less about meta form entirely and more akin to what Gul’dan did. But remember, Gul’dan lost himself too, he was not some Horde pride warlock who was doing stuff for any cause, he was basically trying to become a demonic entity himself…something that a warlock should really have no interest in, as at the end of the day warlocks are clearly egomaniacs bent on the exhilaration that comes with dominating something more powerful than themselves, not letting it dominate you.