I refuse to use Nether Portal in raid. I tried. I hate it. One RNG goes the wrong way and your damage is tanked for 3 mins.
Kalamazi posted a ST Zoo build that, so far, isn’t terrible in ST with tier.
Anyone else using it?
Moving the points from the nether portal line into infernal command and sac souls, i lose about 6.5% ST dps on sims. I chose to put those 4 points there because they are the strongest remaining nodes for single target.
If you were a PI target, that loss would be greater. Infernal Command and guillotine has potential in multi target, whereas pit lord does not, but im not sure it would be close to covering the gap in many encounters. Council is the only one i can think of where Pit Lord isn’t the superior option.
I would like to see Guillotine gain in power a bit as it isn’t nearly as impactful as pit lord is in the niche that it fills. Could be wrong, but i believe Kalamazi mentioned he is even leaning towards pit lord over guillotine in most M+ dungeons as well, because the priority damage is just that much better than what guillotine offsets with it’s aoe.
Here’s his Zoo ST Build
Tried it tonite in a pug and it did remarkably well. Much easier to pull off than a good Nether Portal and very forgiving of bad RNG. I’ll probably stick with this as the damage, while a bit behind NP (2-3%), is much more consistent from pull to pull.
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That was fairly close to what I simmed but I went sac souls to max ST, which isn’t really best for raid scenarios.
Based on your build, if they just put a bit more power in infernal command, it could be competitive with the pit lord build and definitely more reliable.
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From what im simming it seems like a significantly better idea to just try out the destro or aff ST if you dont like the nether portal gameplay. With my gear this setup sims 58.7k dps compared to 70k for the NP demonbolt build. Even swapping IGB and the bad felstorm talents for demonbolt talents the highest I can get with no nether portal is 63.6k. Destro ST is simming at 75.2k for comparison.
Demo ST just needs help in general. It’s currently dead last on Terros Mythic and close to last on Heroic. It brings nice burst AOE and cleave but it’s hard to justify losing that much ST. Seems odd with it being one of the better ST specs for so long.
Yea. Really rough.
But hey, we win on trash!
Guillotine needs to be just replaced, it’s garbage right now. Even for AOE it just doesn’t do much damage, is ground targeted, and keeps your Felguard from doing other things.
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Does Guillotine and Bilescourge Bombers do good damage when combined, or does it just look cool?
Guillotine has one use: on raid trash pulls where mobs live long enough that you can use both it and Demonic Strength. You can at least see your name at the top of the meter once or twice a raid.
These days it’s the only time that’ll happen.