Feels like, to me, that there’s a massive difficulty difference between specs and classes going into these. I’ve been doing t8’s on DH, Monk, and Warrior so far and have noticed that going tank is always easier then DPS in any of the ones I’ve done so far, and DH is by far the hardest to complete them on of those 3 classes (this is using the wowhead recommneded delve specs) prot war being the easiest. I’m not sure if this is intentional or a class or delve balancing issue.
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Problem with solo content is that it’s borderline impossible to make it work for every class/spec in the game. Because of how classes are designed, some are just going to have a harder time by default.
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Sounds like Blizzard needs to fix classes and give some more long needed utility to some. Not only are Delves great, but they are bringing a side product of forcing Blizz to address some seriously long known balance issues.
Great job, all around Blizz.
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If they cared about that, they would have done it after Legion because it was the same thing with the Mage Tower, and later on with Torghast.
I did the tank fight in Legion on a Paladin and a Warrior. On my Paladin, that had to be one of the most difficult things I have done, but my Warrior one shot it lol.
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Definitely. My ret pally fairs better in equal tiers than my mage. They are 10 ilvls apart for disclosure the pally being higher.
But oddly I have more fun with the mage because it keeps me in my toes more. It’s like I have to actually pay more attention.
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I will add the caveet that DH dps rotation is rediculus right now, the opener is like, 3 lines long, itt’s pretty much not worth the time for the dps you get out of it, as havoc at least, and i don’t think the tank spec is doing that great right now either, but I’ll need to wait till gears a bit better for a real idea how it’s going, Prot warrior definitly feels easier then it at this point though. (Wish my guild didn’t need the magic debuff so bad or i probably switch to monk main 
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Any delve that includes a tank is nonexistent difficulty. Tanks shouldn’t breeze through at 570 ilvl without a care in the world. Delves are content that should be DPS-centric for a change.
And there’s no way to fix that short of making mobs ignore threat to attack whoever they want. Dialing up damage on tanks just makes them bring a healer and now you’ve got a dungeon, completely negating what makes delves different. Dialing it up further because there’s a healer means they just get oneshot.
Worst of all, I’m pretty sure that classes who do poorly in solo delves are also useless piles of free meat in PVP. Poor self-sustain and mobility are exactly the kinds of things that make F-tier PVP specs.
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Recommend making Brann a healer.
Also, try to take it slow when running Delves, you’ll live longer.
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With that logic all tanks are S-tier in PvP. Did we just break the meta?
nah, lets just nerf self-reliance instead. y’all have pocket healers right?
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Tank damage reductions are severely reduced in PVP. For this same reason, so they aren’t unstoppably overpowered compared to dps.
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Apparently the balancing for underperforming specs seem to always be a nerf instead of a buff. Every time my hunter becomes decent enough to deal damage, Bliz balances the spec. Then my hunter hits like a wet noodle, not only because something stopped firing off or a proc failed to work, but because she got nerfed instead of buffed when Bliz was balancing the specs.
I really do not understand nerfing under performing classes during a balance phase when it would be easier to just buff under performing specs instead. Makes no sense.
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This is true. On my frost DK, easy sauce and i did it at ilvl 580. Now im 591 from delve gear alone. I do not try it on my spriest cause its hopeless.
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Depends alot on the Role, Spec, and Class. As well as if you should be using Brann as a Healer or DPS depending on those.
Healers generally have a bad time as you are relying on Brann in Solo Delves.
Tanks generally have a good time because they can pull big and are durable with self heals. And Blood DK is easy mode if you know how to play it (best Healer in the game after all).
Clothies and Leather users have hardly any armor so adds can eat them up (unless you are a warlock using a Voidwalker or Felguard).
Warlocks and Hunters use their pet to hold agro and generally have a easier time. For hunter you can use Brann as a DPS as your mend pet is quite good (press and forget HoT use when it expires) as well as your self healing. For warlock I generally use Brann as a healer because our only way to heal our pet is with a terrible channel ability, Brann’s Dwarven Medicine heals our pets too!
DK’s, Pallys, and Warriors have a fun time as well. Melee and ranged with insta (or mostly insta) casts generally fair well. While casters can struggle.
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I do fine with Brann as a healer, but he does need a tank spec for class/spec combos that are struggling in this content.
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if your toon has a tank spec - use it
shadow priest ? - disc is cake
warlock? - go demo
The problem with delves is not the delves, but the community perception of delves.
They are supposed to be an End-Game Pillar.
When you’re trying to do the highest level (t8, cause that’s the gear cap for it, not that it’s actually the highest tier) and you’re struggling in questing greens or even dungeon blues, of course you’re gonna have a hard time.
The reward levels of delves is largely to blame here, because it is a very fast and reliable way to get 600+ilvl gear, so people want it to be easier.
But that’s where people are getting confused, it’s not supposed to be a breeze through to easy loot. It’s supposed to be progressive.
You work your way up through the tiers, just like you’d work your way up pushing keys in m+.
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I’ve done all the 8’s with multiple characters. Tank spec is “easier” if you have one, but it’s also way slower. Going through as DPS just requires you to be on top of your game, while tank has a lot more flexibility in how good you have to be.
I finally complete tier 11 today on this Survival hunter at 609 ilevel and it was still tough.
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Yes , even in leveling , Try leveling through questing as a mage vs anyone other class. It more fun as a mage but its slow as hell .
Better to make earthen mage and level while exploring 
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Changing classes to suit delves seems the wrong way about it to me. They should adjust the content instead.
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