Don’t think too hard. You’re still wrong.
Nope. I’m able to offer my opinion that delves award gear that’s not on par with their difficulty.
Doesn’t make me trolling.
It’s pretty simple.
They need to give mythic vault track back to M8.
All M+ shenanigans would be solved almost entirely.
Again for the people in the back: You don’t need to run normal dungeons to see that having normal dungeons reward the same gear as a heroic raid is way out of parity with difficulty.
Hero track is literally what you gst at the week end vault. Not for doing a base delve. But based on your own argument then the rewards for doing m+ need to be nerfed because a +3 rewards hero track gear in the vault too. Yet i havent seen you or your fellow toxic elitist asking for thosd to be nerfed. Ironic that. Oh wait. Hypocrisy is the actual name.
Snozay has been trolling this topic whenever it comes up. He spews lies and half-truths to try to mislead people into thinking falsehoods about the way the delve reward structure works. Just put him on ignore and move on. That’s what I did.
At this point, I’m pretty sure he’s just very butthurt about getting repeatedly declined by m+ groups and is taking out his frustration by blaming the existence of delves.
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Yea… lil bro just wants to argue lol. And argue his tangent at that. Its wild. Ill never understand it. Jumps into the middle of a convo, doesn’t read context, derails.
Gd is wild sometimes 
Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.
When you repeatedly post the same thing in multiple threads, it’s trolling. You’re a troll. You even admit it.
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Blizzard disagrees with you. Get over it.
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You get hero track in vault and a chance at hero track from bountiful delves.
Where it comes from is irrelevant as the content is still way way too easy to award hero track in any capacity.
While a plus three isn’t hard it’s miles harder and has a fail rate that delves simply don’t have.
This isn’t like a previous 3. It’s equivalent to a previous 13.
- It shouldn’t be hero track at all, because they are easier than heroic Bloodbound horror or +2s.
- It’s not limited to the vault, you can get it out of the end-of-delve chest when you use a map (farmable).
They don’t need to be bountiful
True but you being flat out wrong makes you wrong.
I didn’t admit to anything. Maybe if you actually read what I said before getting triggered and responding.
Only with a map.
So then call for m+ rewards to be nerfed.
Sure. Whatever. Youve proven yourself a troll. Adios.
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You’re vastly oversimplifying what I said, and such a simplification is a deflection at best. How successful an inexperienced M+ player is after gearing through delves does not address the design of the gearing systems in the slightest.
Blizzard could very easily design the gearing system such that delve gear can’t be a suitable replacement for running lower keys. For example:
- Delve gear could be greatly diminished in M+.
- M+2 gear could award the same gear as bountiful T8 gear.
- M+ could require completing/timing the previous level key for each dungeon before being able to run the next level.
Now to be clear, I hate all of these solutions and am happy they aren’t in the game. But the decision to make delve gear as good as it is at such low difficulty levels is part of the design of the PvE gearing system. The structure of timing keys and that design doesn’t somehow negative the gearing design.
I’m sorry, what? In what way did M+ players get LFR and normal raid rewards nerfed?
I can’t speak for all M+ players, but a good chunk of us in this thread aren’t advocating for nerfing delve loot. Delves play in the same gearing sandbox as raid and M+, but are very much out of alignment in terms of effort versus reward. That misalignment creates a number of problems, which is the bulk of what’s being discussed here. Delves do not exist in a vacuum, as much as you may want them to.
And just to make sure it’s clear, I think Blizzard needs to adjust the M+ reward structure to allow for the key level that aligns to T8 delves to award the same quality of gear. Just right now, a +6 is orders of magnitude more difficult than a T8 delve despite dropping the same gear and providing the same gear from the vault.
I don’t fully agree with this, if Blizzard rebalances the rewards across various keys. With more key levels before we reach what’s currently the max reward, there would be more opportunity to slot in current delve rewards without getting too close to the myth track reward. Yeah, you’d still have people trying to skip ahead, but at least it would be more likely that a player who has some M+ experience yet just needs some extra gear could be successful in that lower key level that awards the same gear as we get from delves. The problem today is we have to go so high up the key scale to nearly where the best rewards are to reach the point of the highest delve rewards. Thus the difficulty is completely out of whack.
There’s clearly some deep seeded issues going on, that’s for sure.
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You constantly argue about something you admit doesn’t even affect you. That’s trolling.
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Or maybe he sell carries in m+ and is mad that casual players can get some gear
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Which part of “any capacity” did you not understand?
Why? Delves are easier.
“I can’t refute your points so I’m going to resort to calling you a troll”
Actually you raise a good point. He could very well be a m+ run seller who’s angry that his gold income has dropped.
Heaven forbid the plebs still get lower ilvl and less amount of gear than m+ runners, but get thrown a bone once a week in the vault. SMH. 
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No it isn’t.
I’m posting my opinion. You got triggered.
That’s not me trolling.
I haven’t done any sales since SL.
I’m also never going to be mad over this video game.
Not really. I don’t sell runs. It’s much easier for me to buy tokens
You do realize my proposal doesn’t change the ilvl at all for delve only players right?