Parity in difficulty and rewards compared to the other content that awards champion and heroic items. Delves reward similar loot to M+ 7s, but have no difficulty. As has been explained countless times, but you choose to ignore because it doesn’t support your position.
Delves don’t even give comparable rewards to mythics though. Your getting champ gear from delves. With any luck you get a map that gives u random hero gear. Of course hero gear from vault but you planning on getting geared up over 20 weeks? Delves are fun enough and the rewards make since. I’m not understanding the argument where people compare group activity loot from solo loot. Especially not when the solo loot isnt anywhere near as good as you would get from actual group content.
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So they are not BiS then. I though you said BiS trinket for certain spec. So you lie then
? Cos third or forth best isn’t BiS.
Also doing devles with keys gets you champ track at best and hope you can get a hero track with your trinket once a week only.
With M+ you can farm your trinkets all day 24/7 for that hero track no need to wait for the vault once a week.
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And yet the only reason that you’ve given how this negatively affects you is “it makes it harder to find people to do lower keys with”. And yet it doesn’t, it takes forever to find people to do lower keys with as a DPS because there’s so many DPS applying in lower keys. This is known. Seems like plenty of people are doing lower keys.
So what is the real reason you have any issue with delve rewards?
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Actually I ran them the first two weeks because I was required too by guild.
Imagine being so delusional that thinking one of the main game modes in the game is a waste.
Game isnt based around solo players get over it you’re lucky you got delves.
I have never ever been boosted or boosted someone else or even considering participating in either. Boosting is literally cheating your way up and should have been a bannable offense 20 years ago.
Delves are too easy for its reward compared to the 2 other pve system.
I did my KSM journey this season as discipline and shadow. While there was a marked difference between finding a group as a healer and finding one as a DPS I cannot say it was worse than any other season I’ve done the same in.
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I’ve given you two reasons, which you choose to ignore, as they don’t support your position. If you can’t accept that, I don’t care too much. Anyone who’s stepped foot into delves and also done any heroic raiding or any keys from 7s or lower can see the extreme lack of parity with delves giving hero track rewards.
Nope I said they were strong not BiS. And considering how easy delves are to farm it’s easier to farm a delve trinket than farm a raid trinket.
You clearly don’t understand that BiS is generally only slightly better than non BiS.
Incorrect. You can get hero track from bountiful chests.
Provided a mplus trinket is good enough.
Can also take over 100 runs in some cases.
Your reasons don’t line up with the reality of people actually doing lower keys. You would know that if you were actually running lower keys, but I suspect you’re not because you were running high keys on that character only a season or two ago so you’re probably doing high keys on whatever your current character is now.
So it’s interesting you’d even care about delve rewards at all.
I’ve lived through one of the reasons and find it to be completely out of touch. That being that it is hard to find lower keys or start your own groups for them. It isn’t.
It’s this.
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Yah but the difference is you don’t get hero track gear as a guarantee from delves. You also get specific items out of raids you won’t get out of delves (tier, trinkets, rings, etc…). So it’s a stupid comparison. If you wanna do an 8 delve grats you’ll get 1 hero piece for the week. If you get lucky and get a map congrats you’ll get 1 hero piece you probably didn’t want from that delve. Go to a heroic raid and you have the opportunity to walk out fully geared in one run. You can’t do that in delves and you shouldn’t be able to. This is a stupid post. I can’t believe there’s actually people crying about this.
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Given the people that are in each of these threads demanding changes for “mUh m+ pArItY” I’d have to agree.
All of this is coming from people in the +12 to title push range. It’s almost entirely obvious.
Nobody sitting at 1500 rating is complaining about delves.
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Because people are too busy worrying what others are doing and love to complain about anything and everything.
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It’s becoming increasingly obvious that this is the real reason as the only reason they have left to nerf delve rewards is “but people are struggling to find people to do low keys with” and that’s just not the case at all lol.
They can’t tell us the real reason they care about this, so it just sounds really stupid and you wonder why they would even care. There is no other explanation.
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Ara-Kara Sacbrood , Mark of Khardros, Skarmorak Shard or crafting BiS trinket for ret pally Ara-Kara Sacbrood , Mark of Khardros, Skarmorak Shard ALL drops from M+
For fury warrior Overclocked Gear-a-Rang Launcher, Mark of Khardros, Ara-Kara Sacbrood with the expection of Treacherous Transmitter drop from raids.
Want more examples?
Delves are like, as easy as heroic pug dungeons though.
You shouldn’t get good rewards for doing content a trained monkey can do.
Zekvir ?? Is pretty close to what the difficulty for t8 dungeons should be.
It’s not too hard I’ve you figure it out.
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I mean, if you insist on trolling and ignoring every reason given, then sure. Let there be no explanation except the ones where you beat a strawman.
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