Delve Vaults will be worthless going forward

As more people are starting to get 10’s for the week… Delves are going to literally just be wasted vault spots going forward…

Bliz should seriously reconsider delves… maybe add harder levels… worthy of a myth vault slot, so that we can earn 6 to 9 vault slots if we really want to do all that each week…

Otherwise most of us will be doing 3x Vault slots from M+ 1,2, or for the very few 3 myth raid slots… And then no one that has any of these slots will be touching delves at all. At least not for their vault…

6 Likes

No let’s leave delves the way they are please

73 Likes

They’re good for an alternative.

17 Likes

Yeah you’ll outlevel it at some point, but then you can use it for alts if you want.

It’s a good thing. I don’t want to keep doing boring delves on my main forever. I’m basically done with them now and it’s great. Making it competitive ilvl with other content just shoehorns you into doing it on your main which is bad (just like Torghast which was fun for a while, then got boring on the main, but you could never stop running it). If you want higher ilvl gear then do more difficult/meaningful content.

8 Likes

Delves aren’t really aimed at the hardcore key pusher and mythic raid demographic.

They’re literally part of the world content row. They’re for people NOT doing that.

71 Likes

The point of delves was to add solo/small group content for people more interested in world content.

It’s not there to prop up the vault rewards for raiders and M+ runners for the whole season.

52 Likes

Rewards from killing Hogger are no longer worth it. Leave Hogger alone!

8 Likes

This week on M+ players, we have a M+ player entirely missing the point of Delves.

Tune in next week, where we’ll have a special guest. A M+ player that entirely misses the point of Delves.

71 Likes

Everyone isn’t doing 10’s.

11 Likes

Delves aren’t meant to go past a certain point. They have a ceiling.

So if they don’t benefit you, then move into M+ and raiding and that’s how it works.

There is a ladder to this game and world content is the bottom rung of the ladder that will only go so far up.

This content is for solo to small groups. The difficulty levels are fine. And Blizz did not put higher ilevels into higher tiers for a reason.

Delves aren’t for you. They are for people like me.

15 Likes

I was under the impression that they were marketed as an endgame content pillar, not just a way to gear for some other pillar. They simply cap out way too soon to be the seasonal goal they were portrayed as, both in difficulty and gear.

1 Like

I’ll offer my disagreement in the form of an analogy:

“My Delve gear got me to Ilvl 606 minimum in every slot! Now world boss gear is useless! We should make world bosses arbitrarily harder to compensate and make world bosses matter!”

Please stay in your M+/Raid slot and leave us who like delves alone.

21 Likes

They are an end game content pillar— for open world players. Not for raiders and M+ players to substitute for Mythic gear.

Not for open world players.

14 Likes

There’s always going to be vault limits unless you only associate them with the highest the content. It’s fine. People hit limits with vaults no matter how high the item level. Just take the gem sockets then

1 Like

Delves aren’t meant for people doing Mythic+10 dungeons… I feel they will be worthwhile to me for the entire season.

11 Likes

Go for it. I’d be curious to see if M+ can survive it.

1 Like

At the time I killed Zekvir and my tier 11s, I’d barely touched M+ or raids. (IIRC, my guild had stalled on Silken court normal, and I’d only done 2 and 3 keys.)

I was basically an open world player and found delves to be the most fun content in the expansion until I just ran out of them. There’s no reason why we can’t just add the same extra scaling to tiers above 11 so people can push them and see how high they can get instead of just being forced out because even playing them fairly casually there’s nothing left to do.

Edit: Double checked my IO history to fact check myself. It looks like I also had a single 4 from two weeks ago that went 27 minutes overtime. Other than that accurate.

1 Like

I do think that Delves require a lot of work and that the current iteration isn’t really sustainable longterm. But they were just introduced, so that doesn’t surprise me either.

That said, I don’t think it’s as simple as scaling the higher tiers more and throwing in better gear. Part of why Blizzard capped Delves at the level they did was to try to minimise the impact Delves had on M+ players and raiders - and we have still had to stomach consistent complaining from a portion of the M+ playerbase.

I think part of the issue is that Delves are trying to be quick and chill content, but also difficult content and also content that can be played solo regardless of spec. To try to balance all of that is difficult, and the end result this season is that depending on what spec you were playing you could clear T8 Delves, which have a recommended ilvl of 600+, at ~560 or even lower.

So instead of progressing through the tiers of Delves, which would appear to be what Blizz intended you to do, you had people speeding through the lower Delves and rapidly reaching the end of progression. I myself was clearing T8 Delves as soon as they opened on this DK and on my Mage as soon as they hit 80.

At which point, yes you are going to hit a wall earlier than intended as you didn’t actually progress through the content but instead skipped most of it.

But as I said, I don’t think you can fix that with number scaling alone, like they tried to do with all of the adjustments early on in the expansion. I think Delves will require some fundamental changes to how they function.

3 Likes

Delves are a good start but very crude.

Exactly. An alt… But those 3 slots are just wasted ONCE you get to the point where you’re getting myth from your vault for other source…

A vast majority of players will be capped at 3 myth slots, up to maybe 4… 5 if they’re lucky or have a guild, or 6 if they’re in a very good guild.

The delve slots will simply go to waste, as no one will ever care about Hero vault, once they reach the point of myth vault.

I agree with this. Which is why I started this thread… Hopefully it can get some attention and bliz will consider making more long term rewards for players… as they start progressing to where they start getting a myth vault.

1 Like