I would totally be ok with this. As long as the Delve gear worked in Delves and open world that’s all I need.
I don’t intend to do another dungeon, raid, or pvp battle ever again and this would solve the “problem” of people not doing Mythics 0-7.
Conversely I would be totally ok if Dungeon, raid, and pvp gear was nerfed in Delves. Just do the content you want to do and leave everyone else to what they want to do. And if you like to do more than one type of content? Congratulations you can grind for different sets and not get bored two days after the weekly reset.
I think the absolute worst thing they could do is reduce Delve rewards just because people aren’t doing Mythics.
No, PvE gear should be gear that functions, I don’t feel like carrying 4 gear sets per spec.
Delve gear should be reduced to match its difficulty level, which is negligible. For reference, my DK cleared an 8 at 536 today. That’s champion 3 guaranteed, with a chance at hero 1, from a character who may well be too low level to queue for a heroic dungeon.
I’m more fond of the idea delves should be made actually threatening though. Actual mechanics on bosses, increases to avoidable and unavoidable damage, and throughput checks to put T8s somewhere in the realm of a +6 or +7 dungeon in terms of challenge, so that the rewards would remain the same as present and be appropriate for difficulty.
It would never happen, but i’d totally find with it, so long as mythic+ and raid geared people can no longer use their higher gear to come in and stomp the higher tier Delve challenges and then come to the forums to claim they are easy lol
Not quite, but I remember azerite armor and carrying a blood dungeon trio, and a blood raid trio, and an UH raid and dungeon trio even though I did terrible damage on UH, and two sets of weapons, and like 8 trinkets, plus engineering helm, plus rings, plus pvp junk and AHHH my bags
Are we talking the T8s that were done in the middling 530s, the T11s done in the 600 range, or the Zekvir ?? done in the 600 range? Quite frankly the only high-gear I’ve seen used was for Holy priest Zekvir ??, and that’s because they couldn’t interrupt his heal and didn’t have the damage profile of disc.
with wrath pvp gear it had the best stat Resilience and if you had a full set in pvp servers you would not worry about pvp from pve players there trying to be cheeky
I mean, that makes sense, I can understand why it would work that way honestly. Though I suspect it would lower your throughput on enemies, since it had pvp stats in the budget?
Yeah mostly this, like yesterday i read some guy saying that he did ?? in a small number of pulls, claimed that it was easy and didn’t understand why people thought it was hard.
So i armory stalked him (something i usually wouldn’t do) and sure enough, he’s cleared more than half of the current raid on mythic, heaps of crazy gear and 20 item levels higher than the people that are struggling to do ?? with Delve only geared toons.
I mean, simple mechanics and minimal throughput checks, I suspect someone who’s downed Broodtwister mythic would find it easy, but it doesn’t matter too much. Could be interesting to see the hardmode next season ilvl cap you, wonder how that’d go down with folks
OR maybe you guys should just stop whining and crying over what other people do.
Do you enjoy Delves? Do them and enjoy the rewards.
Do you not enjoy Delves? Then don’t do them and get your gear from somewhere else.
“OH MAI GAWD DELVERS GET MYTHIC REWARDS!”
Uh, that affects you, how?
Do you feel pressured to do Delves to get that gear? If you don’t wanna do Delves, then don’t.
I mean, the first thing any Mythic or Raider will say is that the content is supposed to be a challenge, so uh… you’re surely playing it to prove you’re good enough to clear the content, right?
No?
You just want the gear afterall. Just as I thought.
All that talk about “the only content that matters” and “the fun stuff” being at Mythic and Heroic Raid+ was apparently all hogwash and all people cared about was getting gear.
Thought So.
If it were really about proving yourself and having fun clearing difficult content, then you wouldn’t care what people in delves get. You’d be happily clearing keys and raids.
EDIT: And then there’s the “But there’s nobody doing 0-7 right now!” … maybe because it’s not fun content, just like I’ve been saying for years? If it were fun, people would do it. But people jumped ship at the first chance they got, so … that kinda says a lot about 0-7 that nobody wants to do it anymore.
I don’t like when there are over-geared people simultaneously stomping challenging content that was put in place for Delve peeps, while also lobbying to nerf Delve gear rewards because “It’s too good for the little effort they have to put in”.
It actually takes a decent amount of time and effort to gear up solely through delves and other content.
You only get a guaranteed 4 keys per week and maybe 1 more from shards, and you get one vault reward per week.
That’s a lot of delving, and you probably end up with a ton of duplicates. Just doing the weekly quest on my priest, I got three trinkets, and two pairs of bracers, along with a 1h and an offhand which surprised the heck out of me that I got a 1h and an offhand within 2 delves.