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this is me deleting this post. i can adjust to ele, so i figure its not worth arguing any more. the several unnecessarily rude / challenging responses are tiring to say the least. oh well, pushed to 2.3k mmr in 2s so far and 2.5k mmr in 3s so far so w.e imma just go w the flow and leave this post dead. id delete it if i could but cant so this is me deleting this post. idk how to flag it for deletion so i flagged it as one of the 4 options i had just to show that it being removed is necessary since the post is now dead. this post was a rework for ele dmg post but seeing as it became about projecting negativity back and forth its now irrelevant and toxic. not worth it. peace to all

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Jeez dog learn to format.

And you really dont know what you’re talking about.

Lasso before the change was 24% hp damage 6s stun and no one ran it. Why would we ever run a channeled stun that does no damage, it’s an incredibly sub par mind control at that point

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People brag about glad in BFA? lmao

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Just walls of text are almost hostile to even look at.

I feel like lasso is a necessary evil since damage is so lacking. It takes several SKs thrown out for its damage to stick and actually force cds.

Where in a perfect world I’d prefer to use SK to finish targets off before they LoS or recover.

Meaning lvb, lightning bolt and earth shock doing actual damage.

Earth shock doing ~17k damage without lava shock or mote is sad on 220k hp.

I used to run lasso and earth fury back when lava shock was busted and you could hit 100k+ on 150k life pools.

We just traded one cheese for another

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I’m 104 now on this guy still leveling. So 10-12k is our max hit :confused:? Woof. Maybe I should made boomy?:joy:

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This guy gets it, OP doesnt. The point of a stun is to make you trade out for it if your in danger or sit it if not. If it doesnt do damage, then no one would trade out for it. If you dont want it to do damage, it would have to be casted not channeled and like a <1 second cast time on it to. So it can be done reliably and quickly. Preferably no cast on it at all actually.

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I ran it here and there in co.pa that had no stuns before the buff, mostly because there was legit nothing else ele had for pressure before lava shock could stack, so it was a dampen tool

I like that it can be used while moving, as it is really easy to interrupt as everyone just does now.

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Why would any stun in the game be a channel that does no damage, and DRs with other stuns, and has a CD. What sense does that make.

like I get its application. You basically pay a sub so someone else can play while you cc for them.

But even at that point youd be better off getting a class that can just their stun button and dps.

If lasso did no damage at the very least it would give you a massive damage boost at the end of its channel to make up for a blatant dps lost.

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I dont think you are getting what we are saying. Maybe there is a language barrier here.

We understand that you want damage taken out of Lasso and put into your actual damage spells. However they would have to change lasso to either:
A. Not be channeled
B. Not be on same DR
C. Have Zero CD (if channeled)
D. Changed from a stun to a knockdown. Channel lightning into the target knocking it to the ground and pinning it there for the duration.

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No matter how you dress it up. Doing nothing but channeling a stun that does zero damage and running in circles and it have a CD is useless.

MC doesnt have a CD and would be exactly the same what you are proposing. And with MC you can make the target run away from and LoS their players.

To buff our damage to a pint to compensate for Lasso would put us back to before ES/SK nerfs. And we see where that got us.

Lasso is balanced IMO. And no I dont have anywhere near your PVP exp. Lasso is on stun DR, has a mass range, can be interrupted. It is one of the few risk vs reward spells left.

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No I see what you are saying in any comp. cross cc is cross cc no matter what spell is being used. I just think it is a waste of a spell that would stun/is channeled/no dmg/has a CD. Though it would fit perfectly with shaman since hex is the way it is.

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cannot… READ…no…FORMATTING! UGH!

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