And how many Alliance guilds have quit, this expansion?
I donāt know.
But, of the guilds I was referencing, one of them is Club Camel. NA first Alliance guild to clear mythic, and in the top 20 guilds worldwide. They recently went horde and transferred to Area 52.
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I know you donāt. Go and find out.
Yeah, thereās been quite the hysteria about that. Meanwhile, we had 2 Top 50 guilds on Hyjal that had been around since vanilla - BOTH HORDE - quit the game this expansion, along with hundreds of other raiding guilds, both Horde and Alliance.
There is no mass defection of Alliance guilds going Horde. Whatās happening is that raiding guilds - Horde AND Alliance - are quitting the game, because Battle for Azeroth was a garbage expansion, and because the dev team keeps pooping on raiders every chance they get.
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Still waiting.
Once Horde, got high Raider scores, swapped to Alliance for Druid aesthetics cause Trolls are gross.
Alliance does not M+ or Mythic. It happens, just few and far between.
I think Alliance guilds and mentality are the problem. Alot of younger people play Alliance and alot of Alliance guilds are very PC, very social justice this or that.
On Horde, itās always, do your sht, be cool and be on your A+ game. No one cared about politics, etc.
Maybe when cooler people run guilds, Alliance will change.
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Iām honestly not that interested. If you wanna know you can go find out.
Okay, I never said it was a mass defection. Simply stated my observations of the endgame population.
Huh. Well all I came here to do was state my opinion and observations on endgame population balance between factions, not make a statement on raiding or what Blizzard is doing to raiders. I also never made a statement about guilds quitting, or the overall quality of the game.
Soā¦try being less angry, I guess? Iām done here, Iāve said my piece. Thanks for not reading it.
These threads are always started by (a) an Alliance player, who (b) doesnāt even raid.
Itās hilarious that the original poster is on Proudmoore, which has THIRTY 12/12 Alliance Cutting Edge Mythic guilds and another dozen at 11/12 Mythic working on Nzoth.
Thatās 42 guilds to choose from, just on his server.
The only āissueā here is the number of Alliance players who keep saying āI want there to be more Cutting Edge Alliance guilds so I feel better about my faction choiceā¦ I just donāt want to pitch in and actually raid.ā
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I pitch in and raid frequently.
I want less BS in CE Guilds on the Alliance side.
I donāt see it happening.
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Making wide sweeping generalizations based on one metric that a small portion of the population uses is at best naĆÆve trolling. Well done on your catch.
All you did was post the same talking points that get parroted all the time, I called you out on why itās nonsense.
Well. Which is it. 1%? Or literally nothing?
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Really? Cause I usually see:
Racials! Not as big of a difference as you think. Inconsequential, really.
Story! But the alliance won the fourth war and we got another maniac warchief
Allied Races! Really a matter of taste, I actually prefer the alliance ones
Mounts! Lol, plenty of unique non faction locked mounts in this game. Heck, most of the faction locked mounts suck anyways
PVP! Iāve lost about as much on my horde toons as I have on my alliance toons, and Iāve been ganked on both factions.
And as for larger population, it really does not matter except at the very highest level of play. Youāre going to do just fine as a heroic guild on the alliance. The faction isnāt dead. Heck, the Alliance even outnumbers the Horde on the Oceanic realms. There is no major crisis thatās going to make the faction āliterally unplayable.ā
You happy now, Tewa?
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No, what would make me happy is if Alliance complainers would look at the decay of raiding on both factions, instead of just narcissistically focusing on the Alliance.
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Now thatās a fair topic to get behind. And itās not just raiding, really, its the population of the game as a whole thatās decaying. Shadowlands better not repeat the mistakes BFA made, I donāt know if this community could make it.
Unfortunately theyāre doubling down on their war against the playerbase in Shadowlands, with covenants.
Do you play more than one spec? Too bad. Make another character.
Do you do more than 1 form of content (example: raid, and M+, and pvp)? Too bad. Make another character.
Do you want to finish all the storylines youāve played halfway through, instead of just 1 of the 4? Too bad. Make another character.
Do you want to do all the weekly content, instead of just a quarter of it? Too bad. Make another character.
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Ty for being a horde player that can see it for what it is.
LOL heās not a Horde player.
What do you mean? Iāve played both factions extensively. If you stepped back and looked at the developers during Blizzcon, during interviews, they are obviously Horde fanboys, and that enthusiasm translates into the game. Itās why the Horde constantly has conflict. You canāt explore characterization of the leaders without a conflict exposing their motivations.
Thatās why Alliance is seen as boring and one dimensional, theres barely a difference of opinion over what to have for dinner. Blizzard arenāt interested in telling a story where the Alliance have differences. The most was Tyrande walking out in a huff on Anduin, but it never really affected anything.
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For starters you said nonsense like this:
Which is just, ya know, WRONG.
And:
Still waiting on that source.
Can you post on your Horde character you have played āextensivelyā?
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