Honestly its so damn bad to play, people just leave it right away. Let us remove it ourselves if you won’t make the right call and delete it from the game.
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some of the best players in epics are very enthusiastic about wintergrasp.
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Some simple changes would help.
- Cannons from base shouldn’t shoot miles away they should have a 60 yard range to defend the walls.
- Cannon and Sieges should be used to damage other Towers/Sieges and NPCs not used against the players. So we should reduce all damage to players by 90%
This way WG can be great again where you are defending the Sieges not hiding behind them and using them to mow stuff down. That isn’t PvP. WG right now has hardly any PvP in it and even less strat because it needs serious fixing. It’s a shame because it has potential and I loved WG in Wrath.
Is it hard to be the best in a pool of the very worst? Hierarchy of skilled players in WoW:
R1 Glads
Mythic World First Raids
Glads
Duelists
Mythic Raid
Rivals
Mythic Dungeon
Heroic Raid
Challenger
Raid
Heroic Dungeon
RBG Players
Raidfinder
Step Into the Arena
Dungeon
Premade BG Players
Gold Flippers
RPers
Mount Farmers
Bots
That one afk ERPer on a mailbox dancing
Critters with 1hp
Epic BG Players
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then it shouldn’t be an issue for you
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Doesn’t mean I like wasting 30-45 minutes of my life PER GAME afking watching something on netflix waiting to collect honor when I could be doing something more beneficial to my progression.
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you could try learning how to win.
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You don’t know how to play it, so it’s bad?
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Where is this idea that there’s anything complex at all about WG coming from? You’d have to be completely delusional to actually believe that.
i’ll just leave this here:
Came to forums to make the same post. NO ONE WANTS TO PLAY WG.
It wasn’t even good back in WOTLK and that is probably the last time I won a ****ing game.
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Quite the detailed list, I like it!
It needs to be reworked so the team on defense doesn’t win 95% of the time.
Sure, it’s great when you’re on D, but when you zone in and see you’re on attack, you can sit there and watch 75% of your team /afk out.
That’s bad design.
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Agreed the problem is the attacking team averages out at a 10% win rate, you can look it up. If you are queing into WG and you are on the defending team you probably love it, you can go afk and win. If you que into it on attack you have to become sweaty try hards to win lol…
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That is true.
Even in a loss dedicated epic BG players stick around to see what winning strategies and tactics work for future games.
I WANT TO PLAY WINTERGRASP.
It’s literally my favorite BG. I love leading premades in it, and crushing the opposition.
(And unlike other communities, we’re not faction elitists. We don’t care if you have an Alliance alt or whatever. It’s a game.)
Honestly, I think you and that other guy who hates epics are just trolling. Why do you care so much about people who like doing what they love in a game they pay $15 a month for? If someone likes doing epics, and you don’t, why do you feel the need to care?
I agree that Defense is definitely at an advantage.
However, one of the problems with offense is that they don’t like thinking outside the box.
Many of em think that losing the first team fight means that it’s an automatic loss. Furthermore, they subscribe to the same strategies without modification, even when those strategies lead to consistent losses (look up “definition of insanity”).
Offense win rate can definitely dramatically improve if offense teams try to come up with new ways to win, rather than rely on the meta.
For example, offense used to ALWAYS go SR. Every single game, even when they’d lose the team fight.
This would lead to consistent offense losses.
And this went on, until teams like my own came up with new strategies, like one that involved going to BT first.
Check it out:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/755331993
And so nowadays, BT has sort of “evolved” into a “new meta.” But our work isn’t done yet. On both offense and defense, folks are trying to come up with new strategies, and counter strategies, to near guarantee, or to prevent a near guarantee, victory.
i love epics but wintergrasp is hands down the most boring epic out of all the bgs. its mostly a pve bg with the vehicles now besides the first team fight and its impossible to lose on defense anyway unless your team is super bad.
i think i have only lost once since its been out on defense its a total joke. Most of the time its more fun watching youtube the last 15min once towers down
Also sad part is this is like the only epic that pops i have gotten this bg like 20 freakn times since SL has been out
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i like wintergrasp except when im on a team that decides it needs to split up, zerg or ignore objectives
Edit: okay so maybe that happens A LOT
Good post.
Going to BT first may not be fun for offense but it does force the defense to baby sit SR or must be aggressive going south.
I have found that even though going to BT first may still end in a loss that it still a better strategy for the duration of WG then going all in for SR. Unless your WG offensive team is geared up SR is tough sledding against an intelligent defensive team and they don’t need to be as geared. But a geared defensive WG team can easily hold SR which is why BT for offense is a viable strategy.
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