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Nah that’s all just based on speculation. Too many people take themselves too seriously and think their opinion is fact when they’re really just :clown_face:

You always have the same people that say classic will die after every phase release but they’re usually retail players or people that quit in phase 2.

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I’ve seen a drop off as well as some guilds disbanding and others reforming on my server. This will continue to happen as guilds clear Naxx and people get what they are after.

My own guild lost 1 raider to Shadowlands and another possibly (he disappeared around the time of that release) but we’ve picked up some other people. We don’t have as deep of a bench as we used to though.

Between expansions WoW always loses people. If TBC Classic gets announced some will come back depending on how the announcement goes.

I still see plenty of people around but it seems easier to farm etc these days.

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So you lost 1 person out of 40 to shadowlands and that’s a drop off…? This is what confuses me. Are guilds actually disbanding since last week due to naxx? People keep saying it but I haven’t seen any drama in world chat or lfg that would imply it. How do you even know other guilds are disbanding since last week?

edit: I also disagree that it’s easier to farm. Before naxx I could farm anything I wanted, now everything is perma camped.

My guild is fine right now but we will see as the Naxx content gets older.

As for the other guilds many on my server do seem to be doing fine but I’ve seen a shift in the names and a few have disbanded. I know about it because I pay attention to what’s going on with my server and I’m on the discord. In addition I’ve seen people say stuff like “my guild fell apart and I need a new guild.” I’m sure all servers are different.

Also, my alliance was in a guild that dissolved around a month before Naxx due to burning out/people going to Shadowlands. That was pre-Naxx though so I’m not sure if it’s relevant. I’m just benching my alliance right now and focusing on my horde so I haven’t been paying attention to that scene.

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Purely anecdotal, but I’ve seen a drop off. However, it’s nothing earth shattering.

My guess is that there will continue to be a steady decline, but there’s enough guilds out there to absorb other raid teams that disband. If you want to continue in classic or naxx I don’t see any problems.

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Fair, I just think right now there’s a narrative that there is a drop off due to shadowlands/naxx being end of classic and people have held to that hypothesis. You are right that people will leave as they get tired of naxx, but I don’t see it happening right this second as a lot are saying.

Huge dropoff on Earthfury, which will probably make the sociopaths and social butterflies leave, but that’s ok.

I’ve seen 1 guild disband due to low raid attendance/burnout. Another guild has gone to retail and says they will return for TBC. Other guilds with some low attendance but things have stabilized with a little recruiting it seems.

There’s a percentage that have gone to retail. There’s a percentage that quit because they spent a night wiping on 4HM/Saph/whatever. Really don’t care if I play with those guys anyways, and there’s plenty of players left on the server who are ready to go.

As always it just depends. Some servers are a lot different than others. There was a clear drop off on my server with retail, but I dont see a major drop off with naxx. I would think with naxx it would actually be increasing since its new content. The drop off wont happen until guilds beat naxx, and realize they will be doing this over, and over, and over for months. The repetition is generally where the drop off starts to happen, not when its progression. Also throw in the fact this is near the end for the game which also factors in for some people

Personally the only time I play classic is the hours I spend in a raid and getting world buffs, and not a second more.

Shadowlands, from what I’ve seen, has not had a real impact on guild rosters but its a ghost town on weekends

Yes there has been. I’ve seen many many people dial back or leave classic entirely for Shadowlands.

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We lost one to shadowlands and had like a half dozen come back for the Naxx release. Yesterday after clearing last week we had twice as many and had to bench like 10. That’ll fall off, but its way too early for us to be seeing it yet.

I can mostly agree with this. A lot of raid loggers, but I think that’s really all there is to do.

Multiple large raiding guilds have already died on my server (who were doing AQ40 speed runs effectively, not bad players). Some after the first night of naxx without clearing. I’m sure there is a dropoff. Most people aren’t going to stick around to finish KTZ because its harder than most expected, and they wont after KTZ either, because its very expensive in consumes to raid naxx reliably and efficiently. Especially with fights like loatheb where even with world buffs you need 2 GSPP, and if you dont have WB its rough and you might need more multiplied by however many times you wipe (they’re going for ~20g each right now).

What… did these large raiding guilds just realize on the 1st night of Naxx that they couldnt clear it so they all gquit? Doesn’t sound like a real thing.

Some cleared and then gave up, others got a partial clear and disbanded. There’s been several large guilds that have already died, and more are on the verge of death. The borderline functional dad guilds that struggled in AQ40 but got through cthun will prob all disband/stop raiding within a few weeks I’d guess. Naxx is a big step up compared to prior things, mainly due to a few fights (4H, loatheb, patch, gothik, saph, KTZ).

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I dont believe this is real… what server/faction are you on? What guilds?

On what server? You’re telling me you had guilds that cleared Naxx on the first night and then gdisbanded?

My guild has two raid groups, one which cleared Naxx week 1. That raid group is already making plans to possibly use the second raid group to fill up slots because 5-10 people already confirmed they’re done with raiding until tbc. We’ve been in talks with 2 other guilds having attendance problems, so there might end up being multiple guild mergers in order for people to continue to raid Naxx from here on out.

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