Delete this please

Delete this please

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Here’s a Twitter Link from one of TRP’s makers, I believe:

Here’s that Reddit Post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/Qav2XPu60Y

The bulk of this is a bad idea. It’ll shut down RP basically overnight. Likewise, the non-RP addons too will be limited or even shut down. DBM, all the weak auras, rarefinder, etc etc.

It’s incredibly concerning especially since this is 100% out of left field. Addons of course update (pretty quickly too)) with each new patch or change. This wasn’t laid out in patch notes or anything. I’ve read that it might be a way to limit WeakAuras, since they can make things too easy apparently.

Here’s hoping Blizzard sees the like 5 threads in general forums and darkheart PTR and reverses or adjusts it.

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This definitely could be bad but it could also just be all of us overreacting. We just won’t know anything until the patch in question drops.

I for one hope Blizzard fixes this. I pay Blizzard a subscription, not the addon developers.

Even if Blizz institutes a maximum file size that would help. I love reading and writing and TRP3, but honestly some of those TRP backstories are mini-novellas.

An addon shouldn’t strain the communication between players and the Blizzard WoW servers.

I say wait and see.

thats definitely an overreaction

i wouldnt say it was out of left field either, they sorta did a beta with no addons during plundostorm

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Plunderstorm? That new standalone game we got as content for wow? Yeah didnt really touch that, and this makes me happier to have not

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um

okay

the mog is nice though

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TRP, MRP, XRP, TRP Extended, and GHI have been the main driving tool to keeping RP going for a long time now. There’s a genuine argument to say that without them WoW’s RP community would not be what it is now.

Personally? I’ve quit roleplay. I’m still around and support it 1000%, but I’ve quit it. If you go around Stormwind, I’d say 98% of RPers use these.

I’m not personally sure if UnlimitedChatMessage or similar addons are involved in these issues too. If they are effected, it goes to a state that yes you can still RP, but many won’t want to without the tools the community has had for years.

Is it a bit of an overreaction? Maybe, maybe not. It depends. If this is something Blizzard wants, I’d give a good bet that we see a significant portion of the RP Community drop off within the first week. Whether it’s temporary or not.

Here’s hoping it’s just an oversight.

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From a few people, it looks like XRP will still be functional-ish, but that’s the only one.

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most likely we’re going to see blizz version of the addons

but they need to get in the habit of telling us whats up before making some drastic changes

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Not having TRP won’t stop me. I can RP with anybody just by walking up and saying hello or:

“Aye! Pleased ta meet ya!”

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This is my sentiment as well. I fear that it would take more than 2 months. At that point I think we’d probably see a substantial drop in the RP Community.

Again, hopefully this is just an oversight… but we’ll see. It’ll no doubt damage most of the RP Community if it is implemented, that’s for sure.

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most likely we’ll see alternatives pop up that…idk, caches profiles? so it doesnt have to ping the server as much

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I’m interested to know what people think about this in terms of making the comparison to another game that is much beloved and has received heaps of praise over the last few years.

FFXIV.

It’s my understanding that addons are not allowed in that game. RP addons don’t exist. Instead, everyone uses Carrd for their profiles. I haven’t seen or heard anyone who participates on FFXIV complain about this method or approach.

So would a similar approach ultimately work here in WoW if this change were intentional and here to stay? If not, why do you think it works there but woudn’t here?

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Do you believe instances of that are truly greater in FF than they are here in WoW? And if that’s true, does that really go so far toward removing the necessity of things like RP profile addons?

I’m asking all this honestly, as I’ve never touched FFXIV myself. But I have heard a LOT of campaigning for it.

A good question, however it is comparing two different beasts in a way. WoW has had the wonderful aspect of having adding for years, many many years. The RP Community uses them like crazy too. I recently was on SWTOR for a bit, a different beast (and dying one) where I did see some people use carrd just like FFXIV has. I even made one, though it personally was not my cup of tea for RP.

WoW has had it for a long time, I came to MG around cata. Since then, I personally know I’ve used MRP, XRP, and TRP3 the entire time, at different points in time of course. It’s a huge tool/asset for the RP Community that is almost baked into it at this point. A lot of RPers and RP Guilds use TRP like ray. Others use it for a simple thing or link their carrd to it, personally from what I’ve seen the latter is a lot more rare.

FFXIV has the position of not having adding for RP before, WoW in this case (if this is more than just an oversight) will see it suddenly stop working properly. That is a huge difference. A lot of WoW Rpers stick around because of the adding we have. TRP3 is genuinely great, you might lose a profile now and then but it rocks. It’s also why the majority have used since probably WoD.

I could see the RP Community adapting and using carrd more, don’t get m wrong. But I think plenty would leave. “Why stay on WoW when I could just do this on FFXIV?” No doubt would be asked a few times.

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are ppl really only here for the addons?

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thats interesting
seems like theres no interest in the Warcraft setting

I’ve been between MG and WrA since BC, and I’ve used all the major RP addons myself starting with MRP. I was a little late for the likes of FlagRSP, but you get my drift. And to be clear, I DO like TRP. It helps me to curate my interactions and vet potential RP before committing to a walk-up or event. I enjoy my own profile for those same reasons – so that people can scope me out to see if I’m someone they want to bother with as well.

Still, I know it rarely feels good to have something taken away even if I understand some of the very valid reasons why they may be toying with the notion. Automation through addons has become a real problem and an immense barrier to entry in PvE and PvP. As someone who participates more with content these days than RP, I can see how forcing the community away from these addons, macros, scripts, and bots would be good for the game, its endgame content, and new players just trying to get into it.

So to me, the answer to the question some may ask of why would they RP here when they could do the same thing on FFXIV? I’ll speak for myself when I say that I enjoy this game’s mechanics. I like PvP here more than any other MMO I’ve tried. I prefer this story and this setting. Would it be an objectively sucky thing to lose TRP? Of course. But I think there would be a few silver linings. With things like Carrd, I’d keep on keepin’ on right here in the Warcraft universe. And given how well this approach can work as evidenced by other games, I think that the scene would survive even if it did shrink some.

Though, a banger solution to all of the above might be to impose the data throttling in combat or in instances. In the open world, leave it off. That way the issues of addons monopolizing and dominating content would be rectified. But outside of content, our profiles would still be available to enjoy. If that’s something the game’s code would support without an act of congress at least.

One way or another, we’ll see.

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The addon throttling was a bug, and Blizz will be fixing it. Crisis averted! :partying_face:

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