Delete All World Buffs from SoD

What this hunter nerf and previous BFD changes for casters has shown us is that the developers are changing classes based on the fully world buffed version of that class. This is not fun for the player. This means that in order for every class to be functioning as intended, they need to be fully world buffed all the time.

Please just remove all world buffs from the game. It shouldn’t be expected that players have all world buffs to play the game. It’s not fun game design.

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They should just disable all world buffs in instances. They can be a buff for leveling and world content like the name implies they should be.

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Yep delete them

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How is having buffs that increase your damage not “fun”. They’re super easy to get and I’m genuinely surprised anyone can hold your opinions.

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Don’t delete them, my poor gnome warrior NEEDS it for soloing :crossed_swords:

Yeah dude they’re super easy to get.

  • Get your Darkmoon buff from the fair in off hours so you don’t get ganked
  • Pvp in ashenvale to get a token to obtain your 10% damage buff
  • Kill mobs in felwood to get salvs, find a songflower and get your 1hr buff
  • Find a cleared DM north, and fly there or pay for a summons to get them
  • Now go to ZG and get those buffs
  • After go to stormwind for the Onyxia buffs
  • Now go back to Darnassus to get the BFD buff
  • Also I hope you have a second account, because you also need to go to orgimmar to get mind controlled by a horde priest to get the horde world buff too!
  • Now you can log out until your next raid and once that’s done you can collect the buffs all over again

They’re likely going to do more in phase 2 as well. Totally fun and engaging gameplay!

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Except for majority of these aren’t even in SoD? Don’t get ahead of yourself lil bro. All you need to do is AFK for a few minutes during good hours in TB/Darn for BFD buff, and sometimes get DMF buff, which is easy if you play the game correctly. Then for the damage buff from ashenvale you literally only have to kill 1 elite to get the item per weekly lockout. All super easy to get in this phase. Nothing to complain about.

Why not just give everyone a +50% damage buff because more damage is “fun”?

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if world buffs werent a thing then caster dps would have a way better chance of being more competitive vs warriors. currently the world buffs overwhelmingly benefit warriors, and its only going to get worse.

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For now, then later phases world buffs turn this game into raid logging 101.

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If we have all the SoM changes in SoD from what it seems, the 60s raid won’t allow World Buffs… but who knows.

Except all of those are in the game, we just aren’t a high enough level yet.

I’ve always been torn on WB’s. They are nice to have and collecting them is a lot of fun in our guild. I do understand it trivializes some content and many players are too lazy to get them or get all bent out of shape if they lose them early in the raid run. There is also the requirement to have them in most PUG’s, but one could start their own I suppose if they don’t like the rules of the current options.

If I had a vote I would vote on taking WB’s out but since we have them I make of the most of it. It’s worth reminding people its always possible to start your own groups. I’ve started running a PUG with my alt when its not needed to fill in our second raid times and its much easier than one would think.

Best of luck to you all, Cheers!

Just disable them inside raids.

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I agree, world buffs are terrible design.

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A major concept in Classic is that preparation is rewarded. People enjoy this aspect and it should be part of the game.

As you point out, it can certainly be excessive:

A solution to this is to not have all of them stack and just overwrite if you try. You can have 1 PvE world buff and 1 PvP world buff. Choose what fits your build and plan accordingly.

Hope you like getting stomped by premades with full world buffs in BGs.

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You are poking at a whole different subject here. IMO world buffs don’t affect premade vs PUG or premade vs premade. The former is always one-sided regardless of buffs or not, and the latter is even regardless of buffs or not.

But removing world buffs from raids will help with the elitism toxicity.

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World buffs are an unnecessary mechanic that further complicates balance, which blizzard is already terrible at

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Inside of instanced areas.