Delay the prepatch

They shouldn’t be.

If you haven’t achieved it by now, just realize that you need improvement, or need to make some roster changes.

They just arent CE material, not now, better luck next time.

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That is so easy to say on a Classic toon.

Is a raisin still a grape? Technically yes but…

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? I dont raid CE either, I dont care too, and even if I did would likely have a lot of work to get good enough to do it.

My achievements have nothing at all to do with being able to recognize when your just not there yet. Being honest with yourself has nothing to do with Raiding lol.

Then maybe you shouldn’t comment on what makes someone CE capable or not, because your opinion is worth nothing on this topic.

Umm no, its pretty obvious what makes someone CE capable lol.

GETTING CE…

There is no Ifs here, no buts, no inch, no mile. You get it or you dont, period CUT AND DRY.

Your not good enough to get it, in the timeframe allotted, which is already more than it should be and longer than the other tiers. Then you dont deserve it, for whatever reason, the reason is irrelevant to us, that guild needs to look why they are not achieving it.

I also am friends with alot of CE raiders, I know whats needed, and how it works, dont care to invest that dedication personally.

DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT, If your Not CE capable your NOT CE CAPABLE. Extending the time, is nothing but Welfare which will only foster lack of improvement. They are not CE raiders, Better LUCK NEXT TIME.

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right? imagine people having opinions on things theyve never experienced

Did I say I havent expereinced it? I got CE the very first CE there ever was, Mogushan Vaults, I just dont care to Raid CE.

That doesn’t change the reality that if you cant get it by now, an extra week or 3, is a cructh. If you got it in the last month you didnt deserve it either.

Same with your October Glad, waiting till the season was insanely inflated. Your achievement is worthless. Your not a Gladiator thats why you were never glad before. You abused a long running, inflated season and got it right at the end.

Yeah and a guild that’s 100 pulls into N’zoth today, is probably 150 or so away, is racing against the clock.

You don’t know what lead them there (guilds are notoriously hard to manage and keep going), and why they are where they are, but it’s pretty silly of you, someone who hasn’t even done CE, to tell them they aren’t CE capable.

They’re already massively better than you are.

Yep, it’s pretty silly, I hate when Classic heroes or LFR heroes attempt to comment on Mythic raiding.

I have been CE just said that, I just dont care for Raiding anymore.

A CE guild I am good friends with Called it on Nzoth 2 weeks ago. They said they dont deserve CE at this point. And are taking a break Till SL, and time to fix some issues.

Im sorry if people dont want to face reality, but that doesnt make it less reality.

CE should of already been cut off, with a micro patch to end the season and raid cut offs, at the same time as every other one.

You realized the pre patch is only containing the removal of corruption, level squish, new leveling, reach and new customization. The actually even will be done about 3 to 2 weeks before shadowlands launch.

Sure buddy. Sure.

Post on your CE toon then.

More likely they said that they don’t have enough time left, which is usually a decision guilds make to not spend multiple wipes only to not get it at the end. Things you know if you’ve done CE.

I dont care that much tbh, what you think or dont think I have, it really doesnt matter.

The point still stands, this PVP season, and CE cutoff are beyond welfare as it is. If you didn’t get it 2 months ago, you dont deserve it. Sorry, you cant accept that, not my problem.

Spoken like someone who doesn’t actually have the achievements he boasts he has.

Much less so than SoO, ICC, DS, HFC were, since we’re still far from the cutoff of those.

I mean I got it back in April. I just think this makes you sound like a condescending elitist, and one who doesn’t even play the content he talks about. So basically, I think you’re just being an antagonistic troll.

It doesn’t make me sound like an Elitist, its simply reality.

You dont know what content I play or dont play. Thats the best part of being on a Classic toon :). Especially when you guys assume that anyone on a classic toon accomplished nothing, that makes it even funner.

I see you got it in March actually, you earned it, you deserved it. Good for you.

They dont. By placating them, it makes them think there good enough, their team is CE level, when its not. This in turn causes them to stagnate, they wont make tough choices or look inside to improve, as they will become complacent. That is not a positive thing.

Self Reflection has nothing to do with Raiding, it has to do with Life. If you cannot realize, and criticize yourself to be better, than you have MUCH bigger problems than WOW.

My dislike, and proven to be negative thing of Participation trophies has nothing to do with Raiding, it goes much deeper than that.

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I don’t care if a guild gets CE on the last day, 3 minutes before the servers shutdown.

If they got it, they deserved it and worked towards it and no one can take that away from them.

Saying anything else, from a Classic toon no less, is you just being a toxic troll. Begone.

Literally can take it away from them, Just did, will to their face when they try to flaunt it.

Welfare trophies are nothing but a negative, in Real life and in this game. Sorry your not a winner, Grow up, improve and win like an adult.

Your right about this tier being just as bad as those other ones. Thats why this tier is always labeled as irrelevant anyway. Especially this one, with all the corruptions and stupidity.

I wouldn’t even bother getting CE in this patch, as no one will ever take it seriously no matter when you got it lol.

We’ve had three quarters of a damn year with this. If you don’t have it by the 13th, tough. Delaying launch three weeks out still pisses me off, but delaying the prepatch to cater to people who’ve had over half a year to do it might just make me apoplectic.

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If people didn’t get something done, they’re just going to have to accept that fact on the 13th.

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I disagree, loads of players are ready to see the new changes to lvling and toons, sure there isn’t loads of content to do for the pre-patch. I’d rather have pre patch over BFA in its current state.