More Torghast, and the only changes are ‘new wings’? No thanks, already burned out.
No i only do it when I have to. Screw choreghast
New alts need leggos and spamming the same floor for a hour 2 gets it and we move on til next alt
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So no one who plays this game enjoys Torghast? And everyone is just forced to do it. Do I have your argument right?
Alas, that was sort of the starting point waaaay back in early beta that they slowly abandoned as Torghast evolved into a collection of finite layers.
(If I understand it correctly, they found they needed to define different entry points for players in different gear to avoid putting challenge-seekers through a slog trivial layers and then after a point a run became “did you get an invincible stack of powers or not?” rather than reaching a meaningful difficulty curve as you went up)
Considering I can find far more people who can’t stand having to run that place again than you can those who do it for fun, yeah that’s the argument. And don’t use absolutes, it makes you seem like an idiot trying to set up a gotcha.
A clarifying question is a gotcha? I’m not the one using absolutes.
There are plenty of people who enjoy Torghast, and they’re moving in the right direction design wise. People crapping on it because it doesn’t give them a back massage and a birthday present are the problem.
WoW needs to improve things; not discard them.
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See, you lose when you just make crap up to support your argument. I can easily find loads of posts, videos, etc. of people who can’t stand having to do torghast. You point to seeing a bunch of people there and think that is proof people enjoy it, and you’re simply wrong. You’ve already been told why there are always people there.
p.s. adding a couple more layers is not “improving” anything. Don’t be disingenuous.
Which was backed up with a mountain of evidence.
See, Demodrehd, I run Torghast. I talk to these people. You do what? Talk about it on the forums?
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Okay, at this point I’m done. You’re simply lying to try and “win” on the internet. No one believes you’re standing in Torghast and doing strawpolls with people as you run to zone in.
edit: typo, meant strawpoll.
Doing strawmans? What?
Agreed. I grinded for some soul ash on one or two characters for a whole couple of days, and it was awful. I’m never grinding again if I don’t have to. It’s much more pleasurable to me to play how I want, and thankfully so far Shadowlands has allowed me to play grindfree for the most part.
Don’t care about legendary items or any of that farming junk. I’m quite content with LFR or Normal raids and some mythic+. Being a retired raid lead and mythic raider, it feels wonderful to do what I want, when I want, especially with a busy life filled with other hobbies now!! Gone are my constant 24/7 grinding days of WoW. I ended that after Legion 
It’s perfectly possible for content to be both loved by one part of an audience and hated by another part.
(I’m managing to salvage some use out of it as a place to do half-a-level of levelling alts now and then, but ultimately I’ve had to accept that the direction the devs decided to take Torghast is just not for me; I’ve not tested the 9.2 additions personally, but nothing I’ve seen suggests I’ll have a different reaction to it )
(Bleh … that came out sounding more negative than I wanted … I just got a little over-excited for Torghast back when it was just a theoretical concept)
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No sweat. Torghast is a cool idea, but only the most insane people grind it time and time again.
What is this? Do I have to purchase tier sets?
I’d rather bare the children of Festergut than do Torghast.
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Yessssss, I’m 100% ready for this! I absolutely love Torghast and am happy to see a new mode and more layers. 
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If I had ANY other way to get ash fast I’d do it. And forget about choreghast in a instant
You are sorely mistaken.
Sssooo … you do realize that you can still 5 stars while taking at least an hour. I only say an hour cause I did just that a couple days ago, could be more. There is no minimum run time … at least if there is it’s MORE than reasonable.
Ah yes … because I’m sure you sit down there and clock ever person who comes in on every server all day every day.
You thought wrong. There are plenty of people that love torgast.
Holy freggin cow people … Please stop pretending like the echo chamber of the forums or media actually reflects the greater population.
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This is how I feel about raid gear.
It’s fine that you don’t like it. But we don’t all hate it.